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Another Rinnegan ability

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Before Pain destroyes Konoha in the anime he levitates in the air. This shows that the deva path can be used to change how gravity affects the users body. Also this ability seemed to have no cooldown (however he then used shinra tensei so idk for sure) and he can use other gravity based attacks at the same time as levitating. (Please watch the video to see exactly how the technique worked.)

So, I think Levitation should be added to his abilities. Maybe an explanation should be added to the techniques section under deva path.

Also since Madara also used the Rinnegan it should apply to him as well.
 
Yeah, this would be for Edo Madara only.

Also when I brought that up in a recent debate there was doubt regarding the levitation via deva path. That's why I want more input.
 
This begs the question why Sasuke didn't decide to levitate when he was falling into the lava. I don't know what he did in the manga since I only saw the anime version of the fight. Also when did madara fly in his Edo form? I can't remember
 
He he flew in the battle with Naruto BE Kakashi and Gai.Before he used wood dragon for the first time.

@LordGriffin1000

Sasuke recived his rinnegan in that battle,I think he just didnt know how to fly.But he was able to fly in the battle with Kinshiki.
 
This should suffice

Pain floating
@Dzhindzholia Do you know the manga chapters for Edo Madara and Sasuke flying? I will post the scans when I know where to find them.
 
Madara didnt fly in the manga.Sasuke flew in the last movie,it is canon.He fought Kinshiki in the chapter 2 of Boruto.
 
Even if Sasuke can fly, which I don't remember so please someone provide a scan, it would not mean the same thing for Nagato or Madara. Sasuke's Rinnegan is different from the Rinnegans of Madara and Nagato.
 
Dzhindzholia said:
Sasuke recived his rinnegan in that battle,I think he just didnt know how to fly.But he was able to fly in the battle with Kinshiki.
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The fact that he just got his powers means nothing. He could use the other Rinnegan techniques just fine.
 
He didnt show flight in the manga yet.He could fly in the battle with Kinshiki,it is canon even if it wasnt shown in the manga.
 
Dzhindzholia said:
He didnt show flight in the manga yet.He could fly in the battle with Kinshiki,it is canon even if it wasnt shown in the manga.
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Provide the video then and timestamp where it happens.
 
You're the one claiming he can fly, the burden of proof is on you. And as I said, the flying still won't extend to Nagato or Madara since Sasuke's Rinnegan is different and neither of them used flight in combat.
 
Deva path is limited to push or attract so, it's impossible he was capable of doing both at the same time,since he needs 5 seconds of time between the two things... Which is weird since he show this ability twice...
 
@WilliamShadow The scan I provided shows Pain floating above Konoha, also there is no way for the 5 second stop to apply to this because otherwise he would have fallen to the ground before beeing able to use Shinra Tensei. (The anime is really true to the manga in this scene)

@ScarletFirefly I found the scene it's the beginning of the boruto movie (link, 0:45-1:30). But it's really hard to make out what's happening.

Levitation/flight for nagato should be fine with the scan I provided. And since Edo Madara stated his rinnegan has the same abilities as nagatos (sans gedo mazō) this should scale to Madara as well.

About Sasuke: It seems that most of this has already been discussed at some point since Sasukes profile states "Flight (via Perfect Susanoo and Deva Path)". So we can drop the Sasuke part.
 
@fritz you said "there is no way for the 5 second stop to apply" which is basically proving to be nothing more than inconsistency since in every other case he had to apply those 5 seconds...
 
XBlackExcellenceX said:
Whether he used it for combat is irrelevant. This is an indexing wiki.
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Doesn't change the fact that it's likely an outlier since Madara didn't use it either and it contradicts with the power's way of usage.
 
ScarletFirefly said:
Doesn't change the fact that it's likely an outlier since Madara didn't use it either and it contradicts with the power's way of usage.
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Using the outlier card now? I guess ability being used once is an outlier now. Yep Kirin is also an outlier then
 
I didn't say it's an outlier only because it was once, don't put words in my mouth. I said it's likely an outlier since it contradicts with the fact Shinra Tensei has a minimum of 5sec cooldown everytime it is used, meaning he can't levitate and use another Shinra Tensei at the same time. This along with the fact that Pain used it only once and Madara didn't use it at all, lead me to believe it's either an outlier or something added for dramatic effect to make Pain look like a god since he calls himself that.
 
ScarletFirefly said:
I said it's likely an outlier since it contradicts with the fact Shinra Tensei has a minimum of 5sec cooldown everytime it is used, meaning he can't levitate and use another Shinra Tensei at the same time. This along with the fact that Pain used it only once and Madara didn't use it at all, lead me to believe it's either an outlier or something added for dramatic effect to make Pain look like a god since he calls himself that.
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How does the 5 second rule stop a passive ability like flight? Scan?
 
Since the flight is an extension of his Gravity Manipulation technique, namely Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tenin, it should also comply with said techniques cooldowns and cannot be overwritten by another one in such a quick succession.

I can't provide a scan right now since I'm about to go, but look up the Kakashi vs Pain fight in the manga, Kakashi says he can't use the ability in an interval of 5 seconds after using it once.
 
WilliamShadow said:
@fritz you said "there is no way for the 5 second stop to apply" which is basically proving to be nothing more than inconsistency since in every other case he had to apply those 5 seconds...
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For you as well @xblack
 
Deva path is working slightly different than you think, there is no such thing as a 5 second rule. Rather every use of gravity manip has a cooldown depending on the scale of the manip used. Which happens to be 5 seconds for standard shinra tensei and bansho tenin (more info)

The only reason I can think of is that the scale of the manip used for levitation is so much lower than his standard attacks (in the anime, it becomes apparent when you compare the force of shinra tensei with how slowly he rises in the air) that the cooldown is much lower. Thus he could activate shinra tensei in the air before he starts falling.
 
No need to argue too much. If Sasuke flew in the movie (because I haven't watched it and I can't watch the video right now), it only supports this.

Also, Pain levitated in his fight with KN6 Naruto. I suspected this but I couldn't really remember and I was reluctant to go back and check but since Fritzi has confirmed it by providing the link to the Deva Path's article, it's alright.
 
Sasuke's Rinnegan is different from Nagato's and Madara's so we can't rely on that, and anyway Sasuke already has flight in his profile.

That said, I'm fine adding Limited Levitation via Deva Path to Nagato, for Madara I'm not sure since he didn't display said ability but since they have the same Rinnegan I suppose we can say the exact same about him.
 
Though I edited, but how is Sasuke's Rinnegan different? Because it has tomoe? That probably just enables him to use his Mangekyo techniques. The only Rinnegan techniques that are exclusive to certain users are Limbo and Amenotejikara. Why would flight be exclusive? It's done with the Deva Path (which everyone has) and doesn't even have a name.
 
Sasuke's left Sharingan became a Rinnegan after he got Hagoromo's Chakra making it a "full powered Rinnegan".

And it's not only Sasuke's and Madara's Rinnegan that are different, Momoshiki's Rinnegan is as well. He can absorb jutsus and release them against the user, something that other Rinnegan users cannot do. That's why I'm saying it's unreliable to use other Rinnegans as a basis for Nagato.
 
A little late to the party but regarding sasuke's first use of the rinnegan: he did say at the end of this chapter that he was learning to use it over the course of his fights with so6p madara/ kaguya:

http://*********.com/Manga/Naruto/Naruto-692?id=290926
 
If nobody has something to add, I guess this is concluded and can be closed?
 
Hmm, wait why is it limited? Actually, never mind. I don't agree with what you said but it's best to move this thread along.
 
I'm fine with Limited levitation.

Though he should probably be able to do it for a limited time.
 
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