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Kuubou upgrade

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According to something I found on Yahoo Answers a continent weighs 2.4E21 kg. Assuming movement equal to a quarter of its width (1039 km) we get a whopping 1.295E33 J, which is Planet level for moving a continent

Foreshock would become Large Star level+
 
Pretty big jump from where i'm looking at. But assuming i take your word on it, we'd have Base Kuubou as Planet level, Large Star when reaching Foreshock......damn~

If anybody else can comment this too~
 
Apparently Mainshock Kuubou is far weaker than Reinhard and the universe earthquake thing is only gradual, so he shouldn't be 3-A

However, this does mean we can possibly get Solar System level Kemono-dono with Briah
 
Mmm. I was thinking of an alternative seeing that it takes overtime, rather than right away. Perhaps something of Unknown or any other tier would work?

I see.
 
Anything should work for MS as it's an earthquake that spreads across the universe and gradually destroys it. Solar System level at the least is fine with me. Anyone else on that of HIT's comment?
 
Hmm. So let me see this through. If accepted, we would have this for Kuubou?

"AP: Planet level, strikes with the power of moving continents, which yields this much force. Large Star level when reaching Foreshock (same reasoning), Solar System level in Mainshock (same reasoning)."

With Beast gaining a boost to 4-B with his Briah huh?
 
As far as I am aware, for movement calculations, we tend to use joules per second.

It would likely open bad doors if we start to upgrade all wiki characters far above the actual displayed scale of their feats.

At the very least, we would need a calculation blog that has been accepted by the calc group for this sort of thing, and accept the feats on a case-by-case basis.
 
That would probably be best, yes.
 
Assuming 2.4e21 kg is correct:

Work = F*x

The F must be bigger than the static friction which is ╬╝*W, for ╬╝ i'll assume that it is equal to 1 (pretty high number compared to other) so:

W = ╬╝*W*x = 1*2.4e21*9.8*1039000

Total Work = 2.44e28 Joules (Multi Continent level), there are a few things that i may have overlooked but the total result should be on the same level.

BUT wether the feats should be ranked on that level depends on how much time it took him to move it that much.
 
So it's incorrect to use KE?

And he moved it immediately (well, his punch was stated to hit with enough force to move a continent, he didn't actually "move" anything)

This would make Foreshock Kuubou Small Star level, Mainshock Kuubou at least Small Star level, and Reinhard at least Small Star level, likely higher
 
KE should be used if we have a way of knowing the speed, but since this is just a statement i think the feat should remain at Continent level.
 
I think we should wait for DT first, he is one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable members of this site
 
I will ask Tivanenk as well.
 
Hmm. Yeah, DT and perhaps also Tivan would good to look at this.

And just to clarify, yes it was stated in the VN that Kuubou strikes with the force to move continents (or the force of moving continents). Something that Trex and even EMC and Venom have said (maybe not Venom but he'd very well be able to confirm given that he also read Senshinkan).
 
To use kinetic energy, we must be able to know not only the distance, but also the time frame, since the velocity factor is extremely important due to the second-order scaling the energy receives from it.

So if the time frame is not known, and only the distance, then we can only use the work done to move that mass.
 
@Tivanenk So do you support such a massive upgrade? It seems kind of unreliable to me, given that we would not know the energy expended per second.
 
Tivanenk said:
To use kinetic energy, we must be able to know not only the distance, but also the time frame, since the velocity factor is extremely important due to the second-order scaling the energy receives from it.

So if the time frame is not known, and only the distance, then we can only use the work done to move that mass.
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Thing is though that we know that Kuubou is moving it a very brief timeframe a decently large distance

So while there is indeed no reliable way to calc the KE, it is still a factor

Perhaps an "Unknown" rating would be best, especially for his Mainshock form
 
So we're putting him at Unknown, even though this statement exists in the VN itself? I've put Mainshock at Unknown given that it's a gradual process of destroying the universe. Base Kuubou.....wow...
 
For Base Kuubou? Also, i remember that Trex said that Kuubou was greater these "Dust Angels" like Belial and Beezlebub, who (on the pages being that of Lyle and Judas i made the other day) are High 6-A given that one has a move that can throw all continents off to the Abyss (or Hell iirc?) and the other is stronger.....and apparently going by Trexalfa, Kuubou is stronger than both of them at base.

So "At least High 6-A" Base Kuubou?
 
Antvasima said:
@Tivanenk So do you support such a massive upgrade? It seems kind of unreliable to me, given that we would not know the energy expended per second.
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If the time frame is unknown, no.
 
So are we in agreement?

At least Multi-Continent level (the work alone done by moving a continent would be this strong), at least Small Star level in Foreshock (a trillion times stronger than in base), at least Small Star level, likely higher in Mainshock (much stronger than his previous form)
 
I'm in agreement to say the least. I'm all in for suggestions. But let's wait for Tivan to respond.
 
I'm all up for High 6-A Kuubou. Technically, it's still an upgrade since he's 6-A currently. DK if the thing Trex mentioned to me on Kubbou being>>>Dust Angels is another justification to use tho.
 
This would also put Kemono-dono as "at the very least Small Star level, likely much higher" since he is far superior to Huanglong who is superior to Mainshock Kuubou who is at least Small Star level, likely higher
 
@HIT IT That seems reasonable to me.
 
I suppose that waiting a bit may be best, to be on the safe side.
 
and wouldn't this scale to amakasu and hiragii right? (when they are put here)
 
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