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Two casual planet busters face off. Speed is equalized.
Obviously.
Obviously.
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Saitama vs Knucke Joe
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Knuckle joe via having more range game
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Honestly I'll give this one to saitama. its close and joe does have a bit of an advantage. but Saitama has tanked these levels of attack before (planetary I mean. I'm leaning on planetary as the lore states boros's attack was) and came out un injured in the slightest. while putting that kind of attack out and showing not even a slight ammount of fatigue. In theory it would take a few planet busting hits to defeat siatama, and on the other hand. Knuckle joe would likly go down to far less punishment.
As well, joe does have a "range advantage" however I do feel this is not entirly true. Saitama's punches have shock waves that do deal damage. his serous punch killed boros off the shock wave not the punch if we remember. so I wouldn't put range as an advantage.
As well, joe does have a "range advantage" however I do feel this is not entirly true. Saitama's punches have shock waves that do deal damage. his serous punch killed boros off the shock wave not the punch if we remember. so I wouldn't put range as an advantage.
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Joe has better nand-to-hand skill and better range so he wins.
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saitama: "Melee range with punches, planetary with shockwaves"SuperKamiNappa said:
Joe: Extended melee range
I wouldn't call that a range advantage for joe.
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well then go have that changed on his page.Ryukama said:
And aside that. across a planet would put him on the same range as saitama.
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Well I'm not the most well informed on most of the kriby series. so I wouldn't know.Ryukama said:
What I do know is despite their simaler stats. saitama does have the edge. Much more stamina. Planet level potentail durability but considering what he took with out any injury it would take a few planet level blows to do it, theoretically. and the strongest move we've seen him do doesn't strain him or put any kind of fatigue on him. so he could just send several of those out repeatedly for a very long time for hte victory.
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Gonna give it to Knuckle Joe based on a higher variety of techniques, and the rapid fire strikes of his Vulcan Jab should (theoretically) be enough to contend with Saitama's afterimages or his punch barrages.
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Bump?
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You cant use "Saitama is limitless" as an argument since he hasn't shown to be as of yet
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The good old No limit fallacy.When was that mentioned again?And why should it be taken into account if Saitama has shown nothing comperable to even Planter busting (and yes his planet level stats only come from semi cannon statements while his feats put him at Multi Continent level at best).
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The better question is
When has one ever stated This?
When has one ever stated This?
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That's exactly what i asked. (check my second sentance)
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Missed that SorryKkapoios said:
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I've litterally read All of the Webcomic and Most the mangaHbk2226 said:
i stoped reading the manga because it was way to slow in the Middle of a major arc i'm a MAJOR FAN of OPM and it's honestly one of my favorite seires
So IF i think Knuckle joe wins What does that tell you
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Saitama's best feats are Multi-Continent and best statements are Planet level. Saitama himself has never been suggested or stated to be limitless. Only characters who are weaker than him like Metal Bat and Darkshine have highly hyperobolic statements of being limitless (but once again, if they're weaker than someone, these statements are clearly not true then.)
"Broken Limiter" can simply mean he broke his natural limitations and gained higher strength like Goku, Kenshiro, Jin Ro Mi and many others have in fiction. "Breaking a limiter" does not necessarily imply infinite power at all and we shouldn't assume this is what OPM means by it unless they further elaborate and prove that it is.
However these points have been hammered down by others in this match and on this site in general. So it's best to not derail this thread any further.
"Broken Limiter" can simply mean he broke his natural limitations and gained higher strength like Goku, Kenshiro, Jin Ro Mi and many others have in fiction. "Breaking a limiter" does not necessarily imply infinite power at all and we shouldn't assume this is what OPM means by it unless they further elaborate and prove that it is.
However these points have been hammered down by others in this match and on this site in general. So it's best to not derail this thread any further.
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@Hbk
Boros said saitama's Power was immesurable to him Immesurable =/= limiteless
Plus Boros outright hurt saitama
Boros said saitama's Power was immesurable to him Immesurable =/= limiteless
Plus Boros outright hurt saitama
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Saitama and Knuckle joe are in the same tier via feats
Not random speculation
Not random speculation
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"Chill out bro, It's not that serious lol."Hbk2226 said:
I haven't gotten upset, called you names or anything to suggest that I am upset or taking things seriously. Merely disagreeing with you is not an indication of those things
"Well Lord Boros in the Webcomic, Manga, and Anime he even states he senes no limit to Saitama's power,"
Some random person can't find a limit =/= a limit does not exist. And Boros called himself limitless as well, bringing into question the validity of his statement. Along with the fact that this is a series that has on two other occasions used "limitless" in a purely hyperbolic sense (Metal Bat and Darkshine) There is also fact like DB said that the narration shows Saitama being hurt or like what Hue said Boros later going back on what his statement and claiming Saitama has limited stamina.
"Not to mention he didn't even go all out against a Planet Buster like Boros, So... Yeah."
Even a slightly stronger 5-B can defeat a Planet Buster with little difficulty. Toying with a 5-B is nowhere remotely close to a sign of infinite power, or else the Ginyu Force would be limitless.
Being as generous to Saitama as possible without reverting to baseless assumptions and vague, contradictory hyperboles, he is on the same level as Joe currently.
However this will be the last thing I have to say on the matter. I don't want to derail this thread anymore with an unrelated topic that has been gone over countless times now.
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That was an assumption by Boros with no backing.Huesito88 said:
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Saitama for reasons above and Saitama, despite his seemingly average intelligence, does have battle smarts that he uses when faced with a worthy opponent. He messes with his opponent's senses with moves such as Serious Table Flip and Serious Side Hops.
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He has combat intelligenceSpartan1204 said:
he just has no style
(He has no grace this hero has a funny face)
anybody skilled when it comes to fighting should be able to see him coming from a mile away
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So...let me get this straight Saitama is going up against someone where the ONLY stats he's better in is possibly intelligence, and Stamina. Knuckle Joe has energy and fire manipulation,psuedo flight and martial arts skills, extended melee range and large planetary w/shockwaves compared to melee range and planetary w/ shockwaves, has one tier higher striking strength and otherwise equal stats across the board with Saitama with speed equalized So the only way he's gonna win is if he outlasts Knuckle Joe due to his possibly higher due to being put as "Unknown" stamina. If that's even a thing. Otherwise I'm calling this a mismatch.
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Saitama and Knuckle Joe's stats are pretty much equal within this match. Knuckle Joe's Energy and Fire Manipulation only amount to blasts pretty much. These blasts do not negate durability and they wouldn't even really give that much of an advantage, since said blasts have not shown to nearly have as high of a range as Saitama's shockwaves.
Nothing in KJ's arsenal can negate durability and he doesn't have any notable hax. Saitama's absurdly high jumps and ability to engage in combat in the air can almost qualify for semi-flight in of itself.
Knuckle Joe's only advantages are better fighting skill and higher range with one sort of attack. Everything else the two are around equal in. That is not at all enough to qualify for a mismatch and if it were then pretty much any match in this site could be a stomp.
Nothing in KJ's arsenal can negate durability and he doesn't have any notable hax. Saitama's absurdly high jumps and ability to engage in combat in the air can almost qualify for semi-flight in of itself.
Knuckle Joe's only advantages are better fighting skill and higher range with one sort of attack. Everything else the two are around equal in. That is not at all enough to qualify for a mismatch and if it were then pretty much any match in this site could be a stomp.
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