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the demons of indie games(chill down spine)

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chara is low multiversal while giygas is universal+ so she is like an eternity stronger than him. unless some earthbound supporter proves me wrong this will be a stomp thread and it will require closure
 
this is not a stomp it actually pretty complicated.giygas has mind manipulation bu chara has sould manipulation that can negate durabilitie
 
If your not going to go off the profiles, you're not going to get anything done here.

Also, saying they can only destroy the world once is bullshit. There's no proof that they'll just magically reset back to base like you imply.

"Theoretically" nothing. They did destroy the world.
 
TypeLuo said:
Again, Chara by themselves inhabiting nothing still can literally do nothing. Unless you're going by the highly biased and inaccurate "calculations" of your boards. Chara could theoretically destroy the world once, in a new world they'll still be pissed but they won't have the power of 20 LV.
1. LV 20 is Frisk's amount, not Chara's. Chara at this stage is no longer dependent on her body anyway. She nukes the world, including Frisk without being dependent on this at all.

2. You have a problem with our calculations, make a thread on it. And she's Tier 2 anyway, we don't use calcs from this point onwards.
 
There isn't one. Because, while Chara is strong enough to one-shot several times over (last I checked, it's 2-B vs Low 2-C), Giygas has passive mindhax. But that's not the point here.

The point here, is that however you slice it, Chara detroyed the entire game. Assuming that they inexplicably go back to base after that is pure headcanon that you have yet to back up.
 
TypeLuo said:
When you reset, aka start a new timeline, your stats are reset to zero. After destroying the world, and then resetting, your stats are reset to zero. Unless Chara stays in the same timeline or universe, their stats will be reset when a new timeline starts. That's how the game works, not headcanon.

And really, this entire wiki is a bunch of people with headcanons making their favorite characters stupidly op and downplaying ones they don't like.
The only reason you're able to reset is because Chara lets you. And they immediately take over your body after the Post-Genocide Pacifist route, something they can't do normally, proving your point wrong. And we only see Frisk's stats reset to begin with.

If you think that, then why are you even here?
 
1. Chara blackmailed you... by keeping you from resetting. There are no new timelines prior to that. And Frisk's soul has enough determination to trade hits with 2-Bs anyways, so they'd still be 2-B anyways.

2. Yes, because clearly it's Chara's health that goes up and not Frisk's. Which is why it takes Frisk more hits to die... oh wait.

3. Good for you. You've mildly inconvenienced people and haven't constructively changed anything. Point proven.

Whatever, we're done here.
 
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