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Beerus vs fusion
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Goku has already been on the level of the gods. So it's very likely he knows how powerful Beerus is approximately to make an accurate guess. Based on that Broly is at least around GoD level.
Beerus might stomp Gogeta if he doesn't turn Blue right out the bat though.
Beerus might stomp Gogeta if he doesn't turn Blue right out the bat though.
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I personally find it unlikely for Gogeta to do that as shown with him turning Blue when Broly went into his final form as to keep the power advantage in the fight.
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Beerus has a lot of hax as well that might even the playing field other than Hakai which Gogeta resists as long as he's more powerful.
Beerus apparently has a Sealing technique that might be better than the Mafuba. Ki nullification, Pseudo-Ultra Instinct, The ability to survive in space( It's not Out of character for Beerus to destroy the planet they're fighting on lol), probably superior fighting skill( but this is debatable of course), and of course the biggest advantage is stamina because Gogeta has 30 minutes at most( Likely less because he'll be forced to use Blue) so Beerus might also outlast him. And ofc Beerus isn't THAT behind Gogeta even if we take Goku's statement into account. I think Beerus has a good chance of winning even if Gogeta is stronger tbh.
Beerus apparently has a Sealing technique that might be better than the Mafuba. Ki nullification, Pseudo-Ultra Instinct, The ability to survive in space( It's not Out of character for Beerus to destroy the planet they're fighting on lol), probably superior fighting skill( but this is debatable of course), and of course the biggest advantage is stamina because Gogeta has 30 minutes at most( Likely less because he'll be forced to use Blue) so Beerus might also outlast him. And ofc Beerus isn't THAT behind Gogeta even if we take Goku's statement into account. I think Beerus has a good chance of winning even if Gogeta is stronger tbh.
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In-character: Gogeta wins mid to low difficulty, possibly even stomps
Bloodlusted: EE GG
Bloodlusted: EE GG
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Gogeta resists EE
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He got downgraded a several months back. Unsure. Perhaps checking the history might help?
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yeah because no matter how you look at it, it makes no sense.
Goku was present when Beerus and Champa had their infamous half 2-C bout, twice. With that said, he should have seen the true power of Beerus (or a quick preview) to make an accurate claim like he did in the Broly movie with Broly being possibly stronger. If thats the case then Gogeta blue would be a solid 2-C because Broly couldn't close the gap.
If Goku saw a Suppressed Beerus during that time then that would upgrade basically anybody above Base Jiren to 2-C seeing as they would only need to be 2x Champa. This would also include Beerus himself.
Goku was present when Beerus and Champa had their infamous half 2-C bout, twice. With that said, he should have seen the true power of Beerus (or a quick preview) to make an accurate claim like he did in the Broly movie with Broly being possibly stronger. If thats the case then Gogeta blue would be a solid 2-C because Broly couldn't close the gap.
If Goku saw a Suppressed Beerus during that time then that would upgrade basically anybody above Base Jiren to 2-C seeing as they would only need to be 2x Champa. This would also include Beerus himself.
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Make a CRT about it if you think Gogeta Blue should be 2-C
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How do we block people on Fandom
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I am up for your challenge!Mulgara said:
I'm up bro! Btw I have infinite reasons why Gogeta is 11D
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I'm up bro! Btw I have infinite reasons why Gogeta is 11DOvrhide said:I am up for your challenge!GarrixianDude100193 said:Mulgara said:
11D, they surpassed dimensions bro. low 1-A at bare minimum\
That's OP af
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I'm going with Beerus for now. Broli is (according to Goku) comparable to Beerus in raw power, but his FPSSJ form lacks speed according to the novel (which is why Gogeta had the advantage in their fight). If Broli's powerful enough to require a Full Force Kamehameha from Gogeta Blue (after being weakened by Gogeta's Meteor Explosion attack) to finally be taken out for good, then Beerus with superior speed and abilities to Broli (and being a better fighter than him) should at the very least be able to outlast Gogeta's fusion timer IMO.
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11D, they surpassed dimensions bro. low 1-A at bare minimum\GarrixianDude100193 said:I'm up bro! Btw I have infinite reasons why Gogeta is 11DOvrhide said:I am up for your challenge!GarrixianDude100193 said:Mulgara said:
That's OP af
thats bare minimum bro, remember it was in just ssj.
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That's OP afOvrhide said:11D, they surpassed dimensions bro. low 1-A at bare minimum\GarrixianDude100193 said:I'm up bro! Btw I have infinite reasons why Gogeta is 11DOvrhide said:I am up for your challenge!GarrixianDude100193 said:Mulgara said:
thats bare minimum bro, remember it was in just ssj.
So a 1,600,000 degree of Infinity above SSJ, that's beyond 1-A
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thats bare minimum bro, remember it was in just ssj.GarrixianDude100193 said:That's OP afOvrhide said:11D, they surpassed dimensions bro. low 1-A at bare minimum\GarrixianDude100193 said:I'm up bro! Btw I have infinite reasons why Gogeta is 11DOvrhide said:I am up for your challenge!GarrixianDude100193 said:Mulgara said:
So a 1,600,000 degree of Infinity above SSJ, that's beyond 1-A
remember, toriyama stated broly was that "almighty"saiyan, and that he is rumored to be the strongest DB character.
thats an at least high 1-A to tier 0 statement there. Gogeta outright being tier 0 for beating him.
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oh boy, a dupe or a loss soul
You know, you could actually explain why I'm wrong instead of calling me a "loss soul" for no reason.
You know, you could actually explain why I'm wrong instead of calling me a "loss soul" for no reason.
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oh boy, a dupe or a loss soul You know, you could actually explain why I'm wrong instead of calling me a "loss soul" for no reason.
i dont have too. that is like explaining why water is wet.
How so? What's the problem with my original comment? Saying "you are wrong because you just are" makes you come off as a troll.
i dont have too. that is like explaining why water is wet.
How so? What's the problem with my original comment? Saying "you are wrong because you just are" makes you come off as a troll.
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You know, you could actually explain why I'm wrong instead of calling me a "loss soul" for no reason.i dont have too. that is like explaining why water is wet.NollsyWasRobbed2003 said:
How so? What's the problem with my original comment? Saying "you are wrong because you just are" makes you come off as a troll.
no trolling, is just that the novel doesnt state anything for your argument, there really isnt anything to argue.
also, novel is only secondary canon. the movie is the primary canon.
i would ask you to make a revision thread if you really feel that your argument holds any water. People (and me alike) will gladly debate you on said subject. just dont be dissapointed if you dont see barely anyone agreeing with your side.
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no trolling, is just that the novel doesnt state anything for your argument, there really isnt anything to argue.
also, novel is only secondary canon. the movie is the primary canon.
i would ask you to make a revision thread if you really feel that your argument holds any water. People (and me alike) will gladly debate you on said subject. just dont be dissapointed if you dont see barely anyone agreeing with your side.
I re-reviewed the novel and I did make an oopsie. It was Base Broli who lacked speed despite having a power advantage rather than FPSSJ Broli. And with FPSSJ Broli, there are comparable forms like obviously Grade 3 and Kale's Berserker forms which are both have statements in regards to their emphasis on power over speed, but I guess the forms are still not the same. With that being said, I'd still say Beerus might be able to outlast Gogeta's timer even if he also has the disadvantage in speed (which he doesn't in this battle but I'm just talking about a normal encounter), but I would side with Gogeta winning with extremely high difficulty. As for going to the revision board, Gogeta just having more of speed advantage than a power advantage over Broli wouldn't effect his profile at all. I mean, Gogeta Blue used to be 2-C for being able to apparently defeat Beerus and Champa at once if I'm not mistaken, but that has been removed. So I currently have absolutely no problems with his profile.
also, novel is only secondary canon. the movie is the primary canon.
i would ask you to make a revision thread if you really feel that your argument holds any water. People (and me alike) will gladly debate you on said subject. just dont be dissapointed if you dont see barely anyone agreeing with your side.
I re-reviewed the novel and I did make an oopsie. It was Base Broli who lacked speed despite having a power advantage rather than FPSSJ Broli. And with FPSSJ Broli, there are comparable forms like obviously Grade 3 and Kale's Berserker forms which are both have statements in regards to their emphasis on power over speed, but I guess the forms are still not the same. With that being said, I'd still say Beerus might be able to outlast Gogeta's timer even if he also has the disadvantage in speed (which he doesn't in this battle but I'm just talking about a normal encounter), but I would side with Gogeta winning with extremely high difficulty. As for going to the revision board, Gogeta just having more of speed advantage than a power advantage over Broli wouldn't effect his profile at all. I mean, Gogeta Blue used to be 2-C for being able to apparently defeat Beerus and Champa at once if I'm not mistaken, but that has been removed. So I currently have absolutely no problems with his profile.
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I re-reviewed the novel and I did make an oopsie. It was Base Broli who lacked speed despite having a power advantage rather than FPSSJ Broli. And with FPSSJ Broli, there are comparable forms like obviously Grade 3 and Kale's Berserker forms which are both have statements in regards to their emphasis on power over speed, but I guess the forms are still not the same. With that being said, I'd still say Beerus might be able to outlast Gogeta's timer even if he also has the disadvantage in speed (which he doesn't in this battle but I'm just talking about a normal encounter), but I would side with Gogeta winning with extremely high difficulty. As for going to the revision board, Gogeta just having more of speed advantage than a power advantage over Broli wouldn't effect his profile at all. I mean, Gogeta Blue used to be 2-C for being able to apparently defeat Beerus and Champa at once if I'm not mistaken, but that has been removed. So I currently have absolutely no problems with his profile.NollsyWasRobbed2003 said:
Gogeta has an Ap and Speed advantage in his profile. I dont need to debate this, as it isnt up for debate, but if you really want to change the wikis views, might as well make a revision thread.
and again, the novel holds nothing over the movie.
