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Yubel (powers and tier)

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Hello everyone, I already talked about Yubel (from Yu-Gi-Oh gx) several months ago and someone told me I should use more screenshots and talk about "her" in the content revision board. Yubel does not have a profile here on vs battle wikia, but I think she totally deserve one.

She has an incredibly long list of powers and some of them are really broken (especially for a card game anime like Yu gi oh).

But before, let's talk about Yubel's forms. Here you can see all "her" forms (btw: I'd like to hear your opinion about which pics we should use for each form if there are several pics for some of them): http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/r3nccghu6jwu8gq4bdvjmwnafqcv6bky (you can click on each pic to see a bigger version).

- Human form (tier 10 - B. He was just a regular boy): http://www.imagebam.com/image/da3b3c502735502

Oh btw: in original version he is a boy and that's why I used "her" with quotation marks. I might use the word "her" because of 4kids (I was used to consider Yubel as a "she" before). However when "she" is not human anymore, "her" gender is harder to determinate in original version.



- Eye form (weakest non human form): http://www.imagebam.com/image/0cc3de502735519

http://www.imagebam.com/image/03eb7e502735498



- energy form (based on Professor cobra/Viper's dead son): http://www.imagebam.com/image/39d1fb502737198



- Martin/Marcel possessed: http://www.imagebam.com/image/928b6e502735489



- True form: http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1f1c4502735493

http://www.imagebam.com/image/fe98f1502735514

http://www.imagebam.com/image/b5d47f502735515

http://www.imagebam.com/image/9da0de502735506



- Johan/Jesse possessed: http://www.imagebam.com/image/318559502735491

http://www.imagebam.com/image/0559d2502735512



- Yubel terror incarnate (AKA Yubel - Das Abscheulich Ritter in original version): http://www.imagebam.com/image/d7d2cd502735522



- Yubel the ultimate nightmare (AKA Yubel - Das Extremer Traurig Drachen in original version): http://www.imagebam.com/image/4bbb42502735521



- Yubel fused with Neos (used only once in season 4): http://www.imagebam.com/image/7dea33502735485





Now let's see her powers.

I did a different gallery for each power. But first let's start by showing Yubel is a very powerful entity:



http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/bri5x7mdh013ql4hvlpkoqb14qutx7x8



She spent many years in space, so of course she can survive in the vacuum of space. Judai fused with Yubel in season 4 and is discribed by Saiou/Sartorius as a "being far beyond human intelligence". She was also affected by the light of destruction. A powerful entity that came from a white hole and that want to destroy every single being in the universe (that entity claimed the universe has been destroyed several times already in original version).



When Yubel possessed Johan/jesse, she was able to corrupt gem beast and make them work for her (those who are talking with Judai are the original non corrupted spirits). http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/j1p9zeimdme75wo4exgurrpzllp02o5l



Yubel also has emotion manipulation abilities: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/kfs4ywj58pclt9qs3850oitr1by68k8t

http://www.imagebam.com/image/ba89c7502724711

On that specific pic she states she was the one who did that in order to make Judai's friends distrust him and create darkness in his heart.



Here we can see she can absorb darkness in someone's heart in order to recover her stamina: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/ohjh3jdi1cdxb2g8aqesln3vkvl7j0r7

that should count has a form of darkness manipulation and transmutation (since she turned the darkness in absorbable energy).



Here we can see she can increase the force of possessed bodies: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/xcygbzuspew8q1ourbbbxkcua0kqpgvm

The one she is using here is the one of Martin/Marcel. A puny 13/14 years old boy (same age than Rei/Blair in season 3) with no power. On the last pic we can even see some students felt the impact of her punch and thought it was an earthquake.



Not very impressive, but here we can see Yubel can hear sounds of someone who is talking to her even if that person is hundread meters and several rooms away.

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/0q8pfd6cyhh2841n995dymf12n6353e5 (we can't see it on pics but she was in Martin/Marcel's body).





Here we can see Yubel can harm (or at the very least menace) intangible beings (or at the very least souls): http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/f1e5w2pt66mm4wuyroasfur50cv5d6pt

Here it's Daitokuji sensei/Professor Banner's soul.



Illneess inducement abilities. In that flashback, Yubel made Judai's opponent faint. doctors couldn't heal him because it was describe as an "unknown illness": http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/9h7ppqqg0xsoie6jy1ba0ceudahnl71v



Image projection abilities. Here we can see she used Amon Garam/Adrian Gecko's duel disk to show Judai and others how she defeated him. http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/jejsr4b1t8bsllbxuvxf6idm5p38pzz9





In season 4, Judai gained powers due to his fusion with Yubel. When he uses Yubel's powers (his eyes become yellow and green just like Yubel's eyes) he is not affected by mind control, memory manipulation, mind reading or telepathy: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/qvdn02zlyt6aomlw34iojgku7cio1s8s

In the whole season, Judai was never affected by any "psychic/mental" power as long as he used Yubel's powers. But many other characters started to lose their memories, had their memories altered, were mind controled etc ... Therefore, Yubel herself is of course not affected by that kind of powers too.



Yubel's effect in game (and in the anime) makes her totally unaffected by physical attacks, and in addition to that, she can redirect damages she was supposed to receive to her opponent. She has reality warping abilties that can allow her to use card effect for real and do other things. Some may argue and say "this not Yubel who has this power, but the homonym monster she has on her field", but Yubel can fuse with the summoned Yubel she has on the field as you can see in the last pic: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/xqb43nyjvl1nxka8lc7kblo1zbgy9q06

Which means she can also access to that ability.



Intangibility. Yubel can become intangible: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/wkjlecdk6reqp7oqphpiwm1d641cp5um

As you can see, that card went (sorry if that's not the right word. I don't live in an english speaking country) through Yubel's arm (btw: she was in Martin/Marcel's body).



Instant kill: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/94ja4xemxepqsqj5wyyzdlhxu8sqzr69

As Yubel - the ultimate nightmare, she can instant kill anyone who previously tried to combat her.



Light and lightning manipulation abilities (only if she fuses with Neros).

Light: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/fpqbehqv099kn30narmrqdrahduwwt4c

Lightning: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/8r1i58ph5wnqhes3dwaqhs304h9bbw7k



Matter manipulation. She can create object out of thin air. For example, the "glass container" that contained her eye form was created by her powers. Same for "death-belts" (AKA "bio-bands" in the dubbed version) used by hundreads of duelists in season 3. We know she created the "death-belts" because as soon as students were not in the same universe than her, they magically stopped to exist: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/dzlim95sltkzxipqbpheuxqygr2gdddq



Memory manipulation. Yubel can alter memories, erase them or create new ones. http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/92hq60kukkggtoa4doifsh7p8z5zjact

here she changed Cobra/Viper's memories to make him believe his son was still alive while he was dead (crushed by a truck in original version). Also, not only she can do all that, but in addition to that, she can trap someone in his memories. She did that with Cobra who thougth he was actually talking with his son. His perception of reality was not normaly and for him he was still with this son. Which means he didn't see the precipice in front of him ... which caused his death in original version.



Yubel can also possess someone or mind control someone: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/b5zmciuapz9yw6kb5rwd1lj8ci2l9e9k

During the "martin empire" arc, she even controled more than one hundread of "zombies" (the context was particular though).





Telepathy and mind reading. yubel can telepathically talk to someone and even know everything about that person's whole life nearly instantly: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/n7srux7l3vvv1wfvsacy4r5q3487ubsh (all subtiles are Yubel mentally talking to Amon Garam/Adrian Gecko about details of his life).





Multi universal threat: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/1337mks44ugnbuevr60etgeqatfsgpth

Yubel can use her reality warping power to force 12 dimensions (12 separate universes which include the "normal" universe based on our universe) to fuse. She can also destroy them after the fusion. as she said it here, she can even send someone to an "interval between space and time": http://www.imagebam.com/image/696076502730922

She can also put an end to concept like space or time itself: http://www.imagebam.com/image/465fee502730907



Nightmare inducement. I don't know if that count as dream manipulation or "simply" as nightmare inducement though. http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/52ooa095amn7ccfomn3sknmkiyvefy5l

About Judai, it should be noted Yubel was far away from him in space when she was trying to speak to him in his dreams.



This time I'll include all times other worlds, dimensions or universes were mentioned: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/l8rbsaot4g0xtueklu54r1yvjf83eexz



it just be noted the world of Darkness is NOT part of the 12 dimensions. But I included that just to show the structure of the multiverse in Yu-Gi-Oh! is more complex than we think.



Pocket dimension creation. yubel created a small dimension in which she imprisoned Johan/jesse's soul http://www.imagebam.com/image/2f1ab1502731988



Yubel can poison someone (she did that with her arm when she possessed Martin/Marcel's body). It was not shown on screen how she did that, but due to marks on Rei/Blair's arm, she most likely used her claws. http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/tr7fyd8aqxf84cnl04bj76dgy8dvi5ub

The poison is very quick: in a few minutes the poisonned person becomes so weak she doesn't have the strenght to talk. Death will then occur in a matter of hours. It should be noted that can be healed with appropriate medicine.



Here I included all pics where it was possible to scale Yubel from another character.

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/u2jtcw60vh65zgf47ud58hcu79xp15av

You can see Yubel (In Martin/Marcel's body) easily defeating the sangenma (the 3 legendary demons) in the same time (AKA the 3 sacred beasts in the dubbed version), it's a bit fuzzy because the quality was not very good and also the sengenma are in the dark part of the room. She did it literally with 0 effort while she was in a human body and didn't have access to her full strenght (at that time she didn't have her full body restored). Each of the them is described as "as strong as the sengenshin" (the 3 egyptian gods in the dubbed version), which mean each of them is tier 5 - B.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Slifer_the_Sky_Drago

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Obelisk_the_Tormentor

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Winged_Dragon_of_Ra

Also, later Amon Garam/Andrian Gecko obtained the power of exodia. And Even if Yubel was In Johan/jesse's body and weakened due to her duel with Ryo/Zane (her level of stamina is the one of a human when she is in a human body), she was still stronger than Exodia's power which forced Aman Garam/Adrian Gacko to duel her instead of continuing to physically attack her.

Exodia is tier 5 - B https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Exodia_the_Forbidden_One

So all that makes Yubel easily tier 5 - B (it should be noted she was not even in her real body, but was using human bodies) when she doesn't use her reality warping abilities.

The last 3 pics are about Glow Neos reacting to a laser and Saving Hassleberry's life. That's real light because it reached the moon (in the background) in more or less one second (more or less: I was too lazy to tell precisely when it was). Yubel is vastly stronger than Glow Neos, so if we scale her from that, She has FTL "movement speed" at least.





Reactive evolution and "auto resurrection".http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/8ps2n65n5o3qcpyvmryhkp5a0c1h4vjd

Yubel can evolve when she is killed (or even if something different happens to her like "being vanished off the face of an universe/dimension"), she come back more powerful than before. That's how she became Yubel - Terror incarnate and Yubel - the ultimate nightmare. She can do that up to two time. That happened to her "clone" (the Yubel she summoned on the field), but as you can see in last pics she can fuse with her "clone" if she wants.



Reality warping http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/tib9rxcr7wr51j4wrz0kb7bewb53dvz6

Even in her weakest form, Yubel has reality warping abilities. She changed the serpents of Cobra/Viper's field spell into real serpents. When she was in Martin/marcel's body, she was able to use "polymerisation" to teleport 3 students to a pocket dimension where they were fused with some "spirits/ghosts". Those beings that were created by the fusion between a human and a spirit are totally obedient to Yubel. And of course as you saw it earlier, she can fuse 12 universes with the power of "Super fusion". She can also use any card to apply it's effect for real, including her own card effect.



Shapeshifting (partial transformation). http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/r54iinzdhobj4wndn45cuybgqfa1v20m

As you can see, Yubel can transform her arm if she wants.



Soul manipulation http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/w1v5ze6ygjb3z0gmxipiow6ljz0w4no0

Like many characters from Yu-Gi-Oh, Yubel can toy with living beings' souls. Here, she messed with Johan/jesse's soul and trapped into a pocket dimension created by herself (as you saw earlier).



Spatial manipuation: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/04tp43r3v802ybe8c8inbekzaf80bwxc

Amon Garam/Adrian gecko did that, but only because Yubel gave him some powers (she can give powers to someone if she wants, but of course, those powers are weaker than her own powers).



Summoning: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/4uon09pw7rjfg6h6wk92yqndfycuxc32

Yubel can summon monsters for real



Telekinesis: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/uuh3lxllucuq352laf5o643x4fwl10mw

On first pics, Amon Garam/Adrian Gecko is paralyzed by Yubel's telekinesis even if she was in her eye form. On the 4th pic, she lifted mentally the 7 obelisks, while she was in Martin/Marcel's body (so that feat is not done by her true form), with literally 0 effort, and as you can see, humans are very small compared to them. Also on the last pic she mentally brought some cards to her. That's not impressive, but that definitely shows she has telekinesis abilities.



Teleportation: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/v1nuncfvqkivb5rh7g0fbz6yuq1y4hdz

On first pics, you can see even her energy form was powerful enough to teleport everyone (and the buildings/vehicules they were in) in duel academia (more than one hundread of persons) in another universe, not to mention the submarine and it's crew (easily one kilometer away from academia. Most likely more since they fought a "the rock spirit" summoned by Yubel on the way and still couldn't see the submarine from where they were). The map with the lab was to show you how huge the island was. Look how big the duel academia is compared to persons: http://67.media.tumblr.com/b4f6218a5ab3d0b33a58749648c10b28/tumblr_inline_n5obu03XlO1r9pg5v.png

http://s1000.animepremium.tv/thumb/af/yu-gi-oh-gx-episode-2-online.jpg

inside: http://media.tumblr.com/d9b8f5632399e3afc7014f1afc2677fa/tumblr_inline_mly64eSo291qz4rgp.png

In her true form, Yubel is even able to teleport people from another universe to the one where she currently is, which means her teleportation has a multi universal range in her true form. She of course is able to teleport herself (and other persons too if she wants) to any of the 12 dimensions.



Ubiquity: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/i0ht8y9iy44ra6eyqo76zrfhc6g68afr

Yubel can be at several different places in the same time. On the first pic you can see an energy form of Yubel's body. While she possessed Martin/Marcel she summoned "the rest of her body" that was in another universe/dimension (as stated by herself on the 2nd pic). Also, Yubel can summon herself (don't know if that count, but the first feat with the rest of her body that can stay in another universe shows she can be at two different places).



"Zombification". http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/rbk7nsv66yg6m3hwlnov1lbjyz8h1lws

I don't know if that's the right word, but Yubel can "infect" others with darkness. The first infected people obey her completely and will act like "zombies", they'll try to force others to accept duels and their death belt will drain their energy (Yubel will absorb that energy). Once fully drained they become zombies too. The context is a bit special because infected people can turn people into zombies only if they're drained. But the first two infected people were not drained, Yubel clearly infected them with darkness (which shows once again she has darkness manipulation abilities).



Other abilities (I was too lazy to take more screenshots).

She can become invisible.

She is not affected by the powers of the sangenma: the 3 legendary demons are absorbing all other monsters energy (to at least a planetary level). But Yubel is not affected by their power and can even summon them despite negative consequences their power has on monsters. She can even summon Armythile the chaos phantom (fusion of the 3 sangenma) who should be just as powerful as: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Creator_of_Light without being affected by his power. I do not know if that simply mean her Energy can't be absorbed or if that means she has resistance to magic though.



Also, just like Yami Marik or Yami Bakura, she has avarice inducement abilities and can exploit the darkness inside people's heart or their desires to make them work for her (just like she did with Cobra/Viper or Amon Garam/Adrian Gecko for exemple).

No need to take screenshots for that but Yubel has of course the ability to fly.

And of course, she also has superhuman strenght, speed and durability.



So for me, Yubel's human form should be tier 10 - B, her eye and energy form should have an unknown tier. It should be noted even when she possessed humans she should be at least tier 5 - B due to being able to fight the sangenma and exodia while she possessed Martin and Johan. Her other forms should be "tier 5 - B, likely far higher, 2 - C with reality warping"

She should have most of the powers mentioned earlier (some of them like the possible resistance to magic are not proved). Also I do not know if the fact she can "send someone to an intervale between space and time" or the fact she can also "put an end to space and time" means she has some time manipulation abilities (even limited).

When it comes to durability, she strangely was seriously damaged when she crashed on earth (only a part of her left arm remained intact). But that's certainly PIS or a form of inconsistency (like SB Janemba being defeated while he was vastly superior to his opponents for example).

Her intelligence should be: extremly high, can easily manipulate others to be part of her plan. Can create very complex plans.

Weakness: objects created by her matter manipulation abilities will cease to exist if they're in a different universe than Yubel. She cannot fly while she possesses a human body. Even if she can give strenght to human bodies she possessed, their stamina are still the one they usually have.

Stamina: extremely high when she is using her real body. She can use very complex powers like mind control, mind reading, memory manipulation, spatial manipulation, soul manipulation, reality warping and was never tired by that when she used her real body.

Speed: at least FTL movement speed.




Alright, sorry if that a bit unclear, I tried my best. I'd like to know what you think of all that and if you think we can create a profile for Yubel here. Yubel is definitely an extremely powerful character, especially for a card game anime.
 
MagiSinbad said:
oh boi
This is good. Aizen would really love to see this thread
Really? I'm glad to know I did some good work! That was really long to check both season 3 and 4 (+ a part of other seasons) and take so many screenshots.
 
ZeoParadox said:
https://imgur.com/a/j42YsI know there's 12 dimensions but that said 12, 12D universes
In my screenshots (like this one for example: http://www.imagebam.com/image/5fd927502730909), there are also some moments Yubel is talking about 12D universes. I'm not good enough with japanese to know if that translation was correct though (I just know "ushu" = universe, "ijigen" = dimension, and "sekai" = world).

If that's the case that would be really crazy: 1 - B Yubel. But I'm not sure ... let's see what others think of that. Anyway even if that's "just" a 2 - C feat, that's already crazy enough for a card game anime.
 
In my screenshots (like this one for example: http://www.imagebam.com/image/5fd927502730909), there are also some moments Yubel is talking about 12D universes. I'm not good enough with japanese to know if that translation was correct though (I just know "ushu" = universe, "ijigen" = dimension, and "sekkai" = world).

If that's the case that would be really crazy: 1 - B Yubel. But I'm not sure ... let's see what others think of that. Anyway even if that's "just" a 2 - C feat, that's already crazy enough for a card game anime.

Yeah lol
 
I have problems to imagine a 1 - B character in yu gi oh. I'd say she's most likely 2 - C which is already really good.
 
You can ask LordAizenSama if you wish. I am afraid that I do not have the energy to check through the initial wall of text.
 
Antvasima said:
You can ask LordAizenSama if you wish. I am afraid that I do not have the energy to check through the initial wall of text.
Yup sorry about that. it's really long, but I needed to explain Yubel's forms, and other things. Yubel has an enormous list of powers for an anime card game so no doubt I ended up writting this wall of text ^^.

About LordAizenSama, I think I'll follow your advice, even if MagiSinbad already wrote to him about that topic.
 
Jeune fou said:
Antvasima said:
You can ask LordAizenSama if you wish. I am afraid that I do not have the energy to check through the initial wall of text.
Yup sorry about that. it's really long, but I needed to explain Yubel's forms, and other things. Yubel has an enormous list of powers for an anime card game so no doubt I ended up writting this wall of text ^^.
About LordAizenSama, I think I'll follow your advice, even if MagiSinbad already wrote to him about that topic.
Cant blame him though o3o he's one of the administrators and each of them have more works than the other staff members
 
That's a lot of info here...................... Wow.

While I know a bit about Yugioh it's really only limited to the original series, so bare with me

I don't really mind what picture to use, Guess it's upto whoever wants to make the profile

About the possession, can Yubel do that freely? seems to be but just double checking

Emotion manipulation looks fine

To what level can Yubel recover when absorbing the darkness in peoples heart? Is it just stamina or like, actual regen? I guess darkness manipulation/transmutation is fine.

Enhancing the possessed peoples strength is fine. Superhearing seems fine.

The matter manipulation seems fine the way you describe it but the link isn't working for it

Memory manipulation is ok. as is the mind control telepathy and mindreading.

The Nightmare stuff seems fine as does the poison

wow. I did not know about this part, Multi-Universal for her true form is it? and in the humans form scales to the Egyptian Gods? whoa..

I can't see the pictures for this Lightspeed feat though. but if it was just reactions she'd only have lightspeed reactions

Reactive evolution and ressurection seems ok, but it can only be done twice? should probably be noted on the profile

Reality warping / teleporting Ubiquity and summoning real monsters seems fine

I guess Zombification is kinda a sub form of mind control? could probably list Zombification aswell I guess

I'm not sure about the resistance to magic, i'd probably prefer to stay on the safe side and leave that out.


All in all I'm really quite impressed with the amass of info you got here. Your suggestion for stats is ok aswell though i'm not sure about the lightspeed thing. I'm guessing Yubels Durability is unknown? I got no issue at all if you went ahead and made the profile barring a few changes
 
Just make sure to include good explanations for the statistics in the profile.
 
LordAizenSama said:
That's a lot of info here...................... Wow.
While I know a bit about Yugioh it's really only limited to the original series, so bare with me

I don't really mind what picture to use, Guess it's upto whoever wants to make the profile

About the possession, can Yubel do that freely? seems to be but just double checking

Emotion manipulation looks fine

To what level can Yubel recover when absorbing the darkness in peoples heart? Is it just stamina or like, actual regen? I guess darkness manipulation/transmutation is fine.

Enhancing the possessed peoples strength is fine. Superhearing seems fine.

The matter manipulation seems fine the way you describe it but the link isn't working for it

Memory manipulation is ok. as is the mind control telepathy and mindreading.

The Nightmare stuff seems fine as does the poison

wow. I did not know about this part, Multi-Universal for her true form is it? and in the humans form scales to the Egyptian Gods? whoa..

I can't see the pictures for this Lightspeed feat though. but if it was just reactions she'd only have lightspeed reactions

Reactive evolution and ressurection seems ok, but it can only be done twice? should probably be noted on the profile

Reality warping / teleporting Ubiquity and summoning real monsters seems fine

I guess Zombification is kinda a sub form of mind control? could probably list Zombification aswell I guess

I'm not sure about the resistance to magic, i'd probably prefer to stay on the safe side and leave that out.


All in all I'm really quite impressed with the amass of info you got here. Your suggestion for stats is ok aswell though i'm not sure about the lightspeed thing. I'm guessing Yubels Durability is unknown? I got no issue at all if you went ahead and made the profile barring a few changes


To answer your questions:

- Yup: Yubel can do that freely, the two persons she possessed couldn't resist at all and she never had any difficulty to possess someone. And even if Johan was protected by the gem beasts she never said she had difficulties to possess his body. To the contrary: she even was able to corrupt the gem beasts (turning them into advanced gem beasts (dark versions of the original gem beasts).

- about The darkness, I'd say it's mostly for stamina. She can also regen her body (she used dueling energy to recover her full body while she was reduced to half of an arm when she crashed on Earth). But for regen the process is a LOT slower, it took her several episodes to fully recover her body.

- pics for Matter manipulation didn't work? Well basically I just showed one "death-belt" (
BioBands_Jesse_Front.png
) starting to crack and even being reduced to nothing. That happened because everyone was saved from the "first dimension". Sicne they were in a different universe than Yubel, her creation started to erode and even stopped to exist a few seconds later.

- Yup! Multi universal in her true form. And even when she is just using a human body, she is still powerful enough to effortlessly defeat beings that are equal to egyptian gods! That's indeed really crazy when you think about it!

- about the lightspeed feat, glow neos reacted to it and dodged it. Yubel is at least as fast (likely a lot higher, but we don't know how much). That's impressive for a card game anime, but of course I think we will need to ask for speed equalized in most of vs thread involving Yubel.

- about the reactive evolution and the auto resurrection, she did that twice in the duel against Judai. We do not know if that's her limit (the duel was interrupted by Yubel's "real" use of "super fusion"). But until proven of the contrary, she can do it "only twice" which is already really good.


Also, do you think that can be used to tell she has limited time manipulation abilities? http://www.imagebam.com/image/696076502730922

http://www.imagebam.com/image/465fee502730907


Also what do you think about intangibility? the immunity to mind control, mind reading, memory manipulaiton etc ... and about the pocket dimension creation? Ah and wabout the immunity to physical attacks? And the instant kill? Normally monsters' effects should not be used because that makes things harder to decide who would win. But here, she can use her reality warping abilities to make her effect real and in addition to that she can fused with the yubel she summoned on the field.


Anyway thank you again for reading my thread and yeah, there are tons of info. In fact I myself learnt a few things while I was taking the screenshots. I totally forgot about her intangibility for example.


I'll try my best to create her profile. I'll explain some of her feats and weakness so people will have a better idea of the extend of her powers.
 
Antvasima said:
Just make sure to include good explanations for the statistics in the profile.
I'll try my best (I'll give explanations by saying some of her feats and giving details in "weakness"). I never created a profile before.
 
I also forgot to precise: even when she was just reduced to half of her arm after she crashed, her awareness remained the same. Her "spirit" was not damaged at all and she could still telepathically talk to Viper/Cobra and even read in his mind.

Also she can use several powers at once effortlessly and even is she's not in her real body. For example, just after she defeated the 3 legendary demons, she was able to use her telekinesis and intangibility in the same time with no effort while she was in Martin/Marcel's body.
 
The intangibility pics aren't working for me either ;\

I guess for her regen it would be High-Mid ? would have to note that this is over a extended period of time and is probably not helpful in combat

I don't think we can say she has immunity to physical attacks as it would lead to NLF

Where are you getting the immunity to mind control and such from? I seem to have missed it
 
I'll copy paste what I wrote about the immunity to mind control.


"In season 4, Judai gained powers due to his fusion with Yubel. When he uses Yubel's powers (his eyes become yellow and green just like Yubel's eyes) he is not affected by mind control, memory manipulation, mind reading or telepathy: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/qvdn02zlyt6aomlw34iojgku7cio1s8s

In the whole season, Judai was never affected by any "psychic/mental" power as long as he used Yubel's powers. But many other characters started to lose their memories, had their memories altered, were mind controled etc ... Therefore, Yubel herself is of course not affected by that kind of powers too"
 
LordAizenSama said:
The intangibility pics aren't working for me either ;\
I guess for her regen it would be High-Mid ? would have to note that this is over a extended period of time and is probably not helpful in combat

I don't think we can say she has immunity to physical attacks as it would lead to NLF

Where are you getting the immunity to mind control and such from? I seem to have missed it


I don't know all specific words like NLF. What is it? No limit fallacy? I'd say it's fair not to includ the immunity to physical attacks then.

And about the instant kill?
 
Ah also see the "skeleton" in last pics of the "immunity to mind control" gallery?

He is "Darkness", a being that has a full control over his own universe (the world of Darkness) because he IS that universe but decided to use that physical form. The season 4 was crazy: he trapped everyone's soul (every persons on the planet except Judai) in his world. He is as old as the universe and saw how it was created etc ...

he tried to show pics to Judai and talk to him mentally. It worked at first because Judai wasn't using Yubel's powers. But as as soon as he used them, he was able to stop the telepathic conversation.
 
about the mind control, memory manipulation and mindreading it's more resistance then immunity for the same reasons as the immunity to physical attacks, Yubel may have defended against that but it doesn't mean she could do it against a even stronger foe

Yeah it means No limits fallacy.

mm, I don't think it's a time related ability, it seems like some sort of Battle field removal ability to me?

oh and about the instant kill thing, it seems to be a game mechanic more then anything as I think shes talking about the monster card?
 
LordAizenSama said:
about the mind control, memory manipulation and mindreading it's more resistance then immunity for the same reasons as the immunity to physical attacks, Yubel may have defended against that but it doesn't mean she could do it against a even stronger foe
Yeah it means No limits fallacy.

mm, I don't think it's a time related ability, it seems like some sort of Battle field removal ability to me?

oh and about the instant kill thing, it seems to be a game mechanic more then anything as I think shes talking about the monster card?
Yeah I think you're right. Even if it's "just" resistance, that's still very impressive.

For the time thing, what do you think I should write in the list of her powers for that?

For the instant kill that's indeed a game mechanic (she's refering to Yubel the ultimate nightmare's effect), but it still doesn't count even if she can fuse with the monster card?

http://www.imagebam.com/image/8c10b8502732966

http://www.imagebam.com/image/91e9b8502732971

http://www.imagebam.com/image/4bbb42502735521
 
Just writing Resistance to Mind control,memory manipulation and Mind reading works fine. If for whatever reason in a versus match people ask how good is it it can be debated there, as we don't have a way to gauge these kind of things like we do for Regenerationn or immortality

Yeah we try stay away from using game mechanic effects, although fusing with it makes it a bit more difficult to decide.. imo I still would prefer to not use that effect just to avoid the controversy
 
LordAizenSama said:
Just writing Resistance to Mind control,memory manipulation and Mind reading works fine. If for whatever reason in a versus match people ask how good is it it can be debated there, as we don't have a way to gauge these kind of things like we do for Regenerationn or immortality
Yeah we try stay away from using game mechanic effects, although fusing with it makes it a bit more difficult to decide.. imo I still would prefer to not use that effect just to avoid the controversy
Yeah that makes sense. I'll do that and will avoid to include game mechanic related abilities.
 
About the fusing of the 12 dimensions thing, is there any concrete evidence that those are universes? And if the Egyptian Gods are supposed to be stronger than her, and it scales to them, then doesnt this make this either a huge outlier or inconsistency? The Egyptian Gods are rated here for being planetary beings scaling off of Zorc and even from that, from what I recall, they weren't doing damage that was anything near planetary, let alone universe level

Im not trying to downgrade because Yubel does have a lot of abilitites but some of this seems kind of outlandish.
 
Also, something else about Yubel being rated as a 2C bothers me. Dont we have Numeron Dragon rated as a 2C as well since he created the Yugioh Multiverse? If we rated Yubel, someone far weaker than he is, as a 2C we would have to give a huge upgrade to Numeron Dragon. And Numeron Dragon struggled greatly when making the multiverse considering he died right after making it......

So where does this leave Yubel?
 
2-C has a massive tier discrepency.it wouldn't matter. for example look at arceus, dialga and palkia

  • Multi-Universe level: Characters who can destroy and/or create up to 1000 universal space-time continuums.
 
Anime4Life2020 said:
About the fusing of the 12 dimensions thing, is there any concrete evidence that those are universes? And if the Egyptian Gods are supposed to be stronger than her, and it scales to them, then doesnt this make this either a huge outlier or inconsistency? The Egyptian Gods are rated here for being planetary beings scaling off of Zorc and even from that, from what I recall, they weren't doing damage that was anything near planetary, let alone universe level
Im not trying to downgrade because Yubel does have a lot of abilitites but some of this seems kind of outlandish.
We know the 12 dimensions are universes because one of them is "our" universe, there are references to our universe such as real countries, or things like the eiffel tower (universes started to collapse when she started the fusion, and on professor Zweinstein's computer, there were 12 "squares" to represent each of the dimension. None of them seemed to have a different size).


And well, since Yubel defeated the 3 sangenma in the same time (and they're officially as strong as egyptian gods) in an instant, with no effort, while she had no access to her full strenght and while she wasn't even in her own body but in a human body, she obviously is superior to egyptian gods.


For egyptian gods, they were indeed scaled from Zorc. They directly didn't provoked planetary damage, but since they were able to somehow keep up with Zorc ...

Also I'd like to point out the sangenma (the 3 legendary demons) have a "planetary feat". Not in term of destruction but ... they were still able (in season 1) to absorb the energy of all cards and all duel monster spirits on the planet (except of course other extremely powerful cards such as the 3 egyptian gods).

Also Yubel has amazing feats even if we do not use the "12 dimensions" feat. For example, her teleporation has a multi universal range (since she can teleport people that aren't even in her universe to the universe she currently is), that how she brought people from several different universes to the "dark world" (be careful: the "dark world" and the "world of Darkness" are two different things).

I think you were right to ask those questions. It's better for everyone to be sure of all that before I create her profile.
 
Alright I see now. But even ignoring the egyptian gods, arent there any stronger monsters then her in 5d's and Zexal that didnt show a feat like her fusing the 12 dimensions? If not, then i'll drop it

Also, she was fusing them by using the Super Polymization card right? It wouldnt be game mechanics clearly but would this count as a sort of Prep?
 
Anime4Life2020 said:
Alright I see now. But even ignoring the egyptian gods, arent there any stronger monsters then her in 5d's and Zexal that didnt show a feat like her fusing the 12 dimensions? If not, then i'll drop it
Also, she was fusing them by using the Super Polymization card right? It wouldnt be game mechanics clearly but would this count as a sort of Prep?
To answer your questions:

No monster showed a superior feat (except number 100).

Some characters/monsters showed incredible feat (but "inferior" to yubel's feats) such as number C96 in zexal who wanted to destroy the human world, the astral world and the barian world in the same time.

The light of destruction wanted to destroy all form of life in the universe (but I don't think we should take that seriously since it's plan involved to use a satellite to kill all humans on earth and not his own powers). Though, the light of destruction is really old and saw the universe being destroyed several times already (we don't know if this is a lie or not though). The light of destruction also has destiny manipulation abilities and control it's own fate to choose the most favorable one for itself (thought Judai negated that because he has the power of the gentle darkness that allows him to negate that power).

Don thousand (last antagonist of zexal) was using an incomplete "numeron code". And also he is a lot more powerful than number c96 because thatn umber is just "a small part of don Thousand".

Zushin the sleeping giant (5D's) is said to be as strong as egyptian gods (and fortunately we don't use game mechanic because his effect is "unaffected by other cards' effects. If this card battles a monster, during damage calculatio: ATK and DEF of this card become equal to the current ATK of the monster it is battling +1000, during that damage calculation only.

There are nordic gods monsters in 5D's (Loki, Thor and Odin) and they're "DIVINE" type monsters just like egyptian gods (though we don't know if they're really equal to egyptian gods).

In GX, as I said earlier, Darkness is a character that has full control over his own universe (the "world of Darkness"), because he IS his own universe and used a physical form to confront Judai. He trapped the souls of everyone one the planet in his world during season 4.

Also number C9 is at least as big (maybe a "bit" bigger) than number 9.

Rainbow dragon and Cyber dragon created a wormhole that temporarily linked the "human dimension" and the "first dimension".

There are characters that really did crazy things in yu gi oh, but except number 100, I think none of them can rival Yubel.


Also, I don't think that counts as prep because she doesn't even need to use "super fusion" in a duel. Even when she was in Martin/Marcel's body she was able to use her reality powers to make the effect of "polymerization" real and fuse humans with ghosts/spirits. And she was outside a duel when she did that.
 
Alright I see, but as for the prep part she may have done it outside the duel, but she sitll needed the card itself to make its effects real, no?
 
Yup, she of course still need the card (and btw: her whole plan from the very beginning was to use Judai to create it).
 
Alright then. And has Yubel ever carried cards with her before that? If not, then we might need to make a note saying she is only that strong by either preparing the card or is only that strong by unleashing it. Any problems with that?
 
She obtained it after she left Johan's body (in fact Judai just used it during the duel against possessed Johan and Yubel activated a trap to steal super fusion). During the whole season 4, Judai (fused with Yubel) still has that card.

I of course will say she can multi universe bust thanks to that card (because that's obviously the only way she has to force a fusion between the 12 dimensions).

It is true it took a long time for Judai to create that card (when he was controlled by the supreme king), and the supreme king Judai sacrificed hundreads of innocent souls to create super fusion.

But once Yubel obtained it (and just like every card she uses outside a duel like "polymerization") no specific preparation was required to used it outside a duel (when she uses her reality warping abilities to summon real monsters or use cards for "real" she simply activates the card with no prep). But of course since Yu Gi Oh is a card game anime, Yubel used it during the last duel of season 3 against Judai. In a duel she needed to fuse twelve monsters with different level (one level 1, one level 2 ... and one lv 12 monsters).

So yeah, that's normal to precise it.
 
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