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Fight like a Devil - Dante Vs Jin

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- Both 7-A, Devil Jin, Dante doesn't have the Devil Sword Sparda

- Speed is equal

- Both are in characters

- Starting range is 30 meters


- Theme for the battle


Jin kazama full extraction by jin 05-d5ls0hi
Dante DMC1 Render 2


Dante: 7 (Oliver Oliver Chopper, Tony Tony Chopper, Jason Jason Chopper, Blue Blue Chopper, Kira Kira Chopper, Cell Cell Chopper, Mister Mister Chopper)

Jin:

Inconclusive
 
Dante regen is Mid, Jin is Low-Mid, not a huge difference

Also if Devil Jin is allowed, Jin has the AP advantage, in base form he beaten someone with a feat of 314 megatons and claimed he wasnt a match for him, Dante scales to Sid which is 244 megatons only
 
Dante follows haxstomp and being someone who specializes in attacking his enemies from afar could take advantage and eventually defeat him
 
you acting like Jin cant use his lasers with planetary range to attack him from a distance and other abilities with quite the range
 
Of course I saw the difference in ap but I don't know what his jin style is when it comes to fighting, so I can't say anything exactly.

the forcefile did not save it if dante decides to use DT so it falls into fear hax + atomic deconstruction if dante takes it too seriously
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Dante rarely fights seriously or goes all out, till he decided that it might be too late
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Not true, look at his Weakness section for more info about this
 
is still doesnt change much, as far as i know, Jin doesnt care of such things, nor is he hot headed to be taken advantage of
 
Also, don't forget Devil Trigger

Dante literally one shoted Abigail, who's equal to his base, while using this. Their base literally don't have even a 2x difference, AP is a non factor

Also the fight isn't just attack potency, both of them have hax
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Also if Devil Jin is allowed, Jin has the AP advantage, in base form he beaten someone with a feat of 314 megatons and claimed he wasnt a match for him, Dante scales to Sid which is 244 megatons only
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Sorry but AP is still a factor, Jin would still scale above him buddy also just cuz it isnt even x2 times difference doesnt mean its irrelevant cuz you say so
 
Jin can blow him up with telekinesis and Mid regen isnt a huge regen to say he cant deal with it, plus he can also keep shooting his lasers to the head and obliterate it completely

And just so you know, Kazuya who is a Devil Gene user like Jin, has gone for the head on Heihachi and Jin once did it on a robot in an ending, as well to the head too, which resulted as decapitation
 
But mid regen is all about regenerating you're head isn't it? I don't think you can bypass mid regen with blunt force alone if you're this close in ap
 
ok that's a wincon but dante can reflect it, and dante will eventually overwhelm jin because dante will absorb the attacks giving him more stamin's
 
244 vs 314, its not that close, if both were closer to lets say near 300 or 300 something example, then thats another story

Also i meant with the laser they hit the head
 
Also Jin can use his ki to amp his strikes, learned 3 styles of fighting and beaten others far more experienced and older then him in battle, which are also older then anime Dante, not to mention scaling the likes of Paul, who beaten Ogre (knows ancient styles of fighting + moves from other martial artists)

Dante from what i remember never fought anyone that skilled in h2h or with that many experience at that category
 
My dude that's not even a two times difference. That's barely anything, and I'm pretty sure it's not enough to bypass that regen.
 
Jin has resistance to soul hax, whats stopping Jin from taking Dante soul and make himself stronger hm? Also he has forcefields as well

As if that is relevant if its x2 times or not, AP advantage is still AP advantage, people act like that is very close for both
 
the force field does not protect you from the time stop where dante would try everything he has to find the key to kill jin, dante's soul hax works with beings with planetary level resistance, and dante resists soul hax at a planetary level
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Jin has resistance to soul hax, whats stopping Jin from taking Dante soul and make himsepf stronger hm? Also he has forcefields as well
As if that is relevant if its x2 times or not, AP advantage is still AP advantage, people act like that is very close for both
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Dante can soul hax up to planetary populations, and resists soul hax on that level

And yeah, 2x AP advantage isnt really much... 7.5x AP is whats required for oneshotting.
 
Like Dante will pull out Bangles of Time soon, he will try his main things before going for anything else, which till then Jin has chances to win with what he got

I never said anywhere its a one shot, yet there is still difference in AP, dont know why thats ignored in many threads for matches, acting as if that aint relevant

Since when the planetary hax huh....also taking someone soul (Jin) =/= getting the soul turned into a monster

Kazuya btw, who is vastly above planetary beings failed with his soul hax on Jin, if what you said of Dante is even like that
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Since when the planetary hax huh....also taking someone soul (Jin) =/= getting the soul turned into a monster

Kazuya btw, who is vastly above planetary beings failed with his soul hax on Jin, if what you said of Dante is even like that
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1. What are you even talking about?...

2. "Kazuya who is vastly above planetary beings failed to soul hax jin" Not Planetary Attack Potency. Dante's soul hax scales to an entire planet, AKA billions of lifeforms being soul haxxed at once (Which is how the site currently measures soul hax scale).
 
And Kazuya is at best High 6-A, so I didn't understand the "vastly above planetary beings" thing
 
So, here I am, in a quarantine, with college work that was for yesterday and I forgot and sended today at 1 AM, being dragged into this.

AP: Dante in base scales to 244 and stomps that in DT, Jin scales to 317 and is easily superior to that.

Yeah, Jin has the advantage, by how little it is.

And thats literally it.

Imma debunk all the arguments:

>Jin has the AP advantage

That's a x1.3 advantage, it's very little that I can almost say it is meaningless here.

>Jin can use his lasers with planetary range to attack him from a distance and other

Not only they start at 30m from each other but the speed is equal, if Jin tries to get away Dante will follow so the distance will always be the same, planetary range with one attack is useless if he can't spam it at a safe distance.

Not only that but Royal Guard menas it is even more useless as Dante can outright stop them if he feels like it.

>Jin can blow him up with telekinesis and Mid regen isnt a huge regen to say he cant deal with it,

Telekinesis is measured with lifting strenght, Jin is class 100, Dante is class M, not only Jin isn't going to stop him but in this case Dante can use his own telekinesis to make him his bitch and Jin can do shit about it.

>plus he can also keep shooting his lasers to the head and obliterate it completely

Sure, and Dante is going to stand there to take it all

>Also Jin can use his ki to amp his strikes, learned 3 styles of fighting and beaten others far more experienced and older then him in battle, which are also older then anime Dante, not to mention scaling the likes of Paul, who beaten Ogre (knows ancient styles of fighting + moves from other martial artists)

This is all good and all but Dante is quite skilled, he can learn stuff on contact as shown how he learns to use every weapon he gets the moment he picks it, it may not be enough to deal with Jin but if Jin gets close Dante can just ragdoll his ass with the humungus Lifting strenght he has over Jin.

>Jin has resistance to soul hax, whats stopping Jin from taking Dante soul and make himself stronger hm? Also he has forcefields as well

So did they , yet Dante yeeted them. Dante has resistance to it.

>As if that is relevant if its x2 times or not, AP advantage is still AP advantage

It is there, the thing is that is so small that it really doesn't matter here as one of the fighters is quite haxxy, certainly he doesn't open up with it but having someone who you can't kill with random hits means hax is going to destroy Jin

>Since when the planetary hax huh....also taking someone soul (Jin) =/= getting the soul turned into a monster

In the case of DMC, the demon world energy can easily consume every living being on the planet and turn their souls into monsters, its some sort of soul transmutation and that still counts as soul manipulation, now, these demons that he killed resist said energy as that didn't change them. That's why he can destroy the souls of beings who have resistance to planetary soul manip and low-godly of their own.

Basically it comes down to numbers and resistances, planetary soul hax resistance + low godly is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one guy resistance to soul hax

>Kazuya btw, who is vastly above planetary beings failed with his soul hax on Jin, if what you said of Dante is even like that

Not in the profile and the only feat they have of soul manipulation is Devil Kazuya trying to absorb Jin's soul and it failed, which is why Jin got resistance.

TL;DR

  • Jin AP advantage is so small it is useless.
  • Jin range is useless
  • Jin resistance to soul hax is useless
  • Jin's Telekinesis is useless
  • Once Dante uses hax it is GG.
I vote Dante, hell, I even think this is a stomp.
 
Typical wank here we go


First of all High 6-A was decided for the series as a safer option, even though they make it clear cut 5-B is the case in power, also life wiping a planet of its souls is only High 6-A, not 5-B as most of you claim, so thats utterly irrelevant


Jin more or less stomped the one with 314 in base, i see Devil Jin is also allowed here, so the scaling can easilt argue could be bigger then just 1,3x, as small at it is, its still something, saying its not relevant for no reason other then what it was presented here is lame


The lasers can be spammed and they can reach in outer space, irrelevant what you said, also how are they useless lol, royal guard is gameplay, Dante never did it in a cinematic and its up to the player


And acting like Jin will stand and take the bullets or any attack from him? Especially when he can fly away or have his forcefield up?


Weaponry skill =/= h2h skill, Dante gets rekt in close combat, he isnt a martial artist and no one in his series is even close to that, they are the best with weapons, which usnt new to Tekken who has such individuals too


Soul transformed in a monster =/= taking someone soul and add it to its own power, not the same thing, also said earlier how Kazuya couldnt do shit to his soul


Not even sure what you mean by "not in the profile", the Mishimas (Lars, Heihachi, Kazuya, Jin) are above everyone in the verse including the characters with the rating of High 6-A from.where it started
 
Also if it is a stomp as you say why even create such matches then, most of you look at the profiles before even thinking of making these? Honest question
 
>Typical wank here we go

11/10 argument, I surrender.

>First of all High 6-A was decided for the series as a safer option, even though they make it clear cut 5-B is the case in power

I don't care, it doesn't matter. Why bring this up?

>also life wiping a planet of its souls is only High 6-A, not 5-B as most of you claim, so thats utterly irrelevant

It is hax, hax is measured for how many it can affect, it does't get tiers unless it is Higher Dimensional and even then it is just mentioned as the dimensional level it can affect.

>Jin more or less stomped the one with 314 in base, i see Devil Jin is also allowed here, so the scaling can easilt argue could be bigger then just 1,3x, as small at it is, its still something, saying its not relevant for no reason other then what it was presented here is lame

Yeah, small AP and meaningless for my purpose and arguments

>The lasers can be spammed and they can reach in outer space, irrelevant what you said, also how are they useless lol,

Dante can dodge, teleport out of the way, etc. The range is meaningless cuz he isn't teleporting to the other side of the planet to spam that.

>royal guard is gameplay, Dante never did it in a cinematic and its up to the player

It comes from the game, Dante is a game character, not everything needs to be in cutscenes for it to be canon, also, it's in the profile, got a problem with it? Make a CRT to take it out, otherwise Dante stops the laser like a marshmallow

>And acting like Jin will stand and take the bullets or any attack from him? Especially when he can fly away or have his forcefield up?

Dante can fly no problem, forcefiel may be a problem for Dante at the beggining, once he starts haxxing his way through tho, it will be useless

>Weaponry skill =/= h2h skill, Dante gets rekt in close combat, he isnt a martial artist and no one in his series is even close to that, they are the best with weapons, which usnt new to Tekken who has such individuals too

Dante way higher lifting strengh say "no u" and Dante ragdolls Jin like a doll

>Soul transformed in a monster =/= taking someone soul and add it to its own power, not the same thing, also said earlier how Kazuya couldnt do shit to his soul

It still affects way more souls than anything in Tekken. Either proof they can tank soul hax that deals with planetary resistance or just drop it

>Not even sure what you mean by "not in the profile", the Mishimas (Lars, Heihachi, Kazuya, Jin) are above everyone in the verse including the characters with the rating of High 6-A from.where it started

You said they (Tekken guys) had planetary shit, which it isn't in the profile.

>Also if it is a stomp as you say why even create such matches then, most of you look at the profiles before even thinking of making these? Honest questio

I said it is a stomp, the OP can think this is fair or whatever I'm not in charge of what they do with it.
 
Saying Dante will get rekt in close combat isn't right Dante does have some skill in martial arts plus he beat baul and modeus who were legendary swordsman in the demon world.

Jin has no resistance to fear manipulation (which is passive and makes Dante stronger) and deconstruction which Dante uses in character
 
Swordsmanship =/= h2h skill, wank all you want there both of you, Dante gets rekt in close combat, lifting strength is irrelevant, unless Dante manages to grab him, which aint happening


I bring it up cuz its not High 6-A actually, its higher, also what an argument, neither do i care of your wank over Dante, which shows


Its game mechanic, by your logic then Jin lasers would be unblockable and impossible to parry if we go by that, not to mention it doesnt go like that buddy, being a game character doesnt mean you got freedom to use gameplay mechanics, dont care, so royal guard can go out of the window


Says you about the soul hax? Shao Kahn stripped Earth population of their souls, thats counted as High 6-A, not 5-B, Dante case aint any different, also Kazuya who is above planetary characters tried soul hax on Jin, it didnt work, end of story and soul transmutation=/=taking someone soul, Dante isnt safe from that


Meaningless only on your opinion? The range is still bigger then anything Dante got, stop the ignorance


And Sparda fear manipulation is useless on demons, which Jin is biologically by blood


All i see here is DMC fans wanking, what a surprise, stick to matches to the high tiers on Dante instead of making with lower tiers
 
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