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Zoey_of_Scadrial

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I have a question about these higher Tiers,

1- I have seen various characters listed as 1-A+, how is this any different from 1-A or High 1-A?

2- I am making a cosmology for my fantasy universe, how exactly would I show or describe that the centre (or Zenith), is a Tier 0 "Entity". As High 1-As and 0s seem to be very similar, and I cannot clearly see a way one would actually explain a being to be of such a degree of transendence.
 
A 1-A is a character that transcends every possible extension of a hierarchy of increasingly higher mathematical infinities on a conceptual or existential level to the point that no amount of stacking infinities will get one to their level of power. The hierarchy in question can be anything (dimensions, layers, planes etc.) but has to have its components be ontologically superior to each other.

A 1-A+ is a character who transcends infinite levels of metaphysical reality, the lowest of which already being 1-A. Basically to 1-A what High 1-B is to 10-B.

A High 1-A is a being that is above and beyond any and all extensions of an already metaphysical or beyond-dimensional hierarchy. Essentially, transcending 1-A the way the latter transcends humans and the like.

A Tier 0 transcends High 1-A the way the latter transcends 1-A.

If you want to make your character 0, you first have to describe a dimensional hierarchy of increasing mathematical infinities then describe beings or planes that transcend them in an existential levels to the point that no amount of stacking infinities by a lower being would ever get them to this level. After that, describe a hierarchy even among these planes or beings that has each higher level supercede the last to a beyond infinite degree. Then, describe a being or plane that's above and beyond all possible sizes and configurations of the previous hierarchy. "Zenith" would have to view this plane or being the way a 1-A views a 10-B.

.....Yeah, there's a reason why we have so few Tier 0s on the site.
 
Thank you for helping out. Should I close this thread?
 
BlackeJan said:
Wait....can someone dumb this down for me
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1-A is being beyond countably and uncountably infinite levels of existence.

1-A+ is being to 1-A what High 1-B is to 10-B.

High 1-A is to 1-A what 1-A is to 10-B.

0 is to High 1-A what High 1-A is to 1-A.
 
Go on the tiering list,

Anything above 3-A gets hard to understand, with Tier 1 being very complicated, dealing with degrees of infinity.
 
Ok, to put it simply, a 1-A+ is infinite infinities above a normal 1-A.
 
BlackeJan said:
Oh no i get that i just dont understand the whole High 1B compared to 10B
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The difference in power between a 1-A+ and a 1-A is like the difference between a High 1-B and a 10-B. It's just an analogy though.
 
High 1-B is infinite levels of transcendence above 10-B, and even above 3-A. The same way that 1-A+ is infinite levels of transcendence above 1-A. He just gave 10-B as it is the most relatable. Though any Sub Low 2-C Tier should also work.
 
Also they really don't relate. It is just the idea of the Transcendent Nature of High 1-B versus the Non-Transcendent Nature of 11-C through 3-A+. 10-B is bound, limited to a singular plane of reality, though High 1-B is shown as "usually represented in fiction by endless hierarchies of layers of existence, each succeeding one completely trivializing the previous into insignificance."

11-C through 3-A+, or possibly up to High 1-C if you consider compactified dimensions, are considered the standard universal model. Imagine another layer above this that views the lower layer as fiction. Than continue this ad infinitum ipsius, at the zenith of this infinite hierarchy would be a High 1-B being.
 
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