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ice vs fire but its not who you think it is.

Gonna just assume Mustang takes the skill advantage. What's Elsa's MO and can she make 7-C shields with her ice? It's not mentioned on her profile.
 
i dont believe she can and even if she could it would still be ice so it could probably be melted. but i wouldnt take my word for it, admittedly im not all that familiar with frozen.
 
Roy rubs his fingers and burns Elsa's eyes out. And ye, Roy dominates in skill, both long range and CQC, as he can tango and kill several of the Bradley rejects who have been taught martial arts, fencing, swordsmanship, marksmanship, etc and they've been training for 60+ years straight.
 
Doesn't she can easily make shields much higher than High 8-C? I mean, her 7-C+ shield was done pretty quickly and she's quick to retaliate back as seen in Frozen 2.

Also Ice Shields that can withstand 7-C+ attacks aren't going to be easily melted by High 8-C flames (if at all. Even a small cube of ice takes some time to be melted by a flamethrower)
 
her profiles says nothing about her ice or sheilds being 7-C+. and as far as we´re aware it´s just normal ice so it can be melted. its just powerful because there is a lot of it that appears very quickly.
 
Bob8999 said:
her profiles says nothing about her ice or sheilds being 7-C+. and as far as we´re aware it´s just normal ice so it can be melted. its just powerful because there is a lot of it that appears very quickly.
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So? He aint melting 7-C Ice anytime soon
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
She literally made an 7-C+ wall and it was calced and accepted.
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If you actually read the whole calc and not just the rating, you'd know that the calc is finding the amount of energy necessary to create the whole wall, not determining the durability of the wall itself. It's still just ice and can likely still be melted.
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
Gilad Hyperstar said:
She literally made an 7-C+ wall and it was calced and accepted.
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If you actually read the whole calc and not just the rating, you'd know that the calc is finding the amount of energy necessary to create the whole wall, not determining the durability of the wall itself. It's still just ice and can likely still be melted.
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^^^
 
The shield was durable enough to survive a tidal wave that would wipe out Arendelle without issue, so High 8-C Flames won't be enough unfortunately
 
a. i dont think you know how heat energy works but heres a crash course. kinetic energy ≠ heat energy.

b. the tidal wave was only going to destroy arendelle due to its size (kinetic energy = MASS times velocity squared.) and its a similar story with her ice wall it only has so much power because there is a lot of it, not becauses its stronger than normal ice. there is just a lot of it.

c. roys blasts are much more focused than a tidal wave. take a needle for example its much smaller than a fist yet it breaks the skin much more easily than a fist or finger.

d. roy can kind of bybass dura by boiling bodily fluids (this also cant be blocked as there is nothing to block. he snaps and his opponents eye´s are boiled, no blast, no visible attack, just snapping followed by immense pain and fluid loss.).
 
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Gilad Hyperstar said:
The shield was durable enough to survive a tidal wave that would wipe out Arendelle without issue, so High 8-C Flames won't be enough unfortunately
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Regardless of her having a shield his flames will go around it as he has pinpoint accuracy with his flames.

Check this out for his flames weaving around and avoiding things to hit their targets:

https://youtu.be/G32-UoVaJyY

Please ignore the song over the video this is literally the only video I could find that shows this scene.
 
That's some impressive fire dodging. If that's so, then Roy should win this since Elsa wouldn't defend herself in time
 
Roy snaps FRA

EDiT; That pinpoint incineration of an opponents eyes or tongue is kinda ridiculous imo and even without his flame Alchemy, he still has the versatility advantage with circless alchemy, CQC, better combat experience and has actually fought opponents with elemental powers (like others have said already).
 
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