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Sosuke Aizen vs Vlad Plasmius

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Reatsu Crush GG (However the hell you say it). DP characters soul resistance isn't that good. The potency for RC is easily in the hundreds from what I've heard.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Reatsu Crush GG (However the hell you say it). DP characters soul resistance isn't that good. The potency for RC is easily in the hundreds from what I've heard.
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According to AKM, the way RC is being used in vs matches isn't accepted. Until it's resolved, RC shouldnt count as an argument.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
LordGriffin1000 said:
Reatsu Crush GG (However the hell you say it). DP characters soul resistance isn't that good. The potency for RC is easily in the hundreds from what I've heard.
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According to AKM, the way RC is being used in vs matches isn't accepted. Until it's resolved, RC shouldnt count as an argument.
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As far as i know only you and AKM have been againts it the others have accepted it so it is valid

Also https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4021633 so you need to make a new thread if you want to take RC out.
 
Honest curiosity, is the Reiatsu Crush really such OP ability that it would be enough to win?

I mean, Vlad have very high Regenerationn (Low-Godly for his ectoplasmic body, High-Mid for his core) and he had Resistance to Soul Manipulation as well, i doubt Aizen would be able to killing him with such method.
 
Whether or not RC is even applicable is up in the air, because there are rules against it working on comparable opponents, but Bleach fans don't think these rules apply to it. While at least 1 staff member does. There were even really credible debunks against it in the Future Warrior thread which was upvoted by upwards of 10 users.

But nobody wants to make a thread and get it officially settled, presumably because people are scared.
 
Would it work on a literal soul of comparable power?

How can you crush a soul when it's power is close to yours?
 
I'd say just postpone this until people feel like making the thread on RC.

Otherwise we just get a revision discussion in this thread which never amounts to anything.

Honestly, since we have literal rules against it even being flat-out hax and a staff member believes those rules apply to it, I'm pretty sure the burden of proof would be on the Bleach fans to say RC is applicable.

And this is also without mentioning Shadow's argument which pretty much debunks it working against comparable opponents (Even without the aforementioned rules), but fans just kinda ignored it.
 
Guess I'll just half to upgrade DP ghosts Regenerationn to Mid-Godly 😎. Sad truth is, there is two or three Mid-Godly Regenerationn feats but I never bothered to bring them up given I don't know if it will be accepted given it was off screen.
 
I always find it interesting how some people keep jerking to what one guy thinks lol. It's on the profile and accepted for like over a year now. If it bothers you just follow simple wiki procedure and make a thread to remove it from the profiles.

The effects of reiatsu are a variety of things that can range from something simple like making you foam from the mouth or just destroying the souls of others. The one frequently used in vs threads is currently accepted as soul manipulation.
 
AKM was objectively wrong in that thread about how Reiatsu Crush works, unless he genuinely believes Orihime and Chad are 5-B in durability for standing next to Yhwach. First of all, he'd need to make a CRT and insert false information in order to remove it, secondly and I'm going to be blunt and frank here the only reason why certain users even take his word is because he's an Administrator, which users tend to stan even if they are wrong, and in this case he's objectively wrong.


This "rC iSnT aCcEpTeD bEcAuSe AkM sAmA SaId So" argument needs to stop. Several other staff members agree that the opposing side is the side that needs to make a CRT along with several of our most knowledgeable staff members. And all I'm gonna say here is that if AKM never directly replied and debunked Imade on the thread then that's something that should tell you which side is right.
 
I've had no issue with RC but after seeing how some Bleach vs matches turn out, I wanted to make a thread regarding RC so we could finally be done with said problem but I was told by some people that there was no need... But now people want one made?. I'm confused.

@Prince and Sigurd

Can't you guys just make a blog containing all the facts about RC and why it is legit so other people will stop talking about it?. It seems this RC stuff will never stop unless the proof is put directly in peoples faces. Again, I never had a problem with RC and I'm not saying you guys are need to make a blog or thread but this is getting annoying which I'm sure we can agree on.

Anywho, I'm gonna go continue playing Metro Redux, be back after I die 10+ times lol.
 
You guys just decided it didn't apply to it. There was never a thread actually discussing it. Bleach was mostly kept out of the thread because nobody (Especially the staff) wanted to turn the thread into a Bleach-focused thread which fans might cause to go uncompleted because of their filibusting.
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
As far as i know only you and AKM have been againts it the others have accepted it so it is valid
Also https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4021633 so you need to make a new thread if you want to take RC out.
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No, don't put words in my mouth. AKM for multiple Bleach vs threads has flat out said RC isn't accepted here, no matter how many times you want to treat it as such. And that if you want it used in vs threads, YOU have to be the one to make the thread to get it accepted.

This isn't about "me being against it". This is about staff outright confirming it's not accepted. You dont agree? Take it up with AKM.
 
@Prof

Too bad it's a accepted not sure how many times I have to tell you that. I even asked Elizhaa about it who was in the original thread to get it added and the op of that caveat thread. Just get over it. It's soul manipulation right now.
 
I really don't care how many times you or others repeat "its accepted" because as it's been pointed out in multiple of these threads, its not. AKM has flat out said the energy equalization caveat thread debunked the way RC is currently being used and was rejected. But you continue to ignore that to do whatever you want with the ability instead of simply taking it up with the one who claims he debunked it. And no offense, but it's getting tiresome.

If a blog is planned to cover RC, thats fine. Make it and go from there. But stop sitting here pretending as if AKM isnt clearly refuting how you guys treat the hax.
 
No shade but Kukui your motives in regards to Bleach are very suspect and most people who've been in Bleach threads will tell you, that you have a tendency to scrutinize every little tid bit of information.


I quite frankly don't give a flying **** about what AKM says or thinks, because he is quite literally wrong in regards to how Reiatsu Crush even works. Going by his own logic Orihime and Chad would be 5-B for being next to Yhwach in combat, same thing for Renji. Reiatsu isn't something that can countered with higher amounts of AP, what does counter is a higher amount of Reiryoku which grants the user higher amounts of soul manipulation Resistance depending on how much of it they actually have. Once again, let me reiterate that AKM is wrong and will always continue to be wrong on this subject. If you wanna argue that verse Equalization is counter then go ahead, but that's still wrong. But to say that RC can be countered by sheer AP is blatant misinformation.


A staff member can tell me 2 + 2 equal 7 or that the world is flat or some shit, it doesn't make them right in any regard.


Edit: And Reiatsu Crush as a whole was never covered in that thread, that was just enegry Equalization, which is a case by case basis. If you wanna argue that it applies to Bleach then you'll need to bring it up in a content revision thread, the abilities are accepted and in the profiles so if you want a change then you'll have to do something about it.
 
I don't understand, I explain it to you and you obviously don't care about what I've said. You keep telling me what a staff member thinks but I've asked a knowledgeable staff member who was in both threads and he agreed with me there was no such conclusion in said thread.

Randomly saying someone debunked something isn't a debunk, people can disagree with whatever they want since that's their decision. What's annoying is you spouting it in every bleach thread as if it's some fact.
 
>No shade but Kukui your motives in regards to Bleach are very suspect and most people who've been in Bleach threads will tell you, that you have a tendency to scrutinize every little tid bit of information.

Just like how its your motive to always make this personally about other people whenever an issue with Bleach comes up, like you did just now. And I have nothing to do with this besides going off of the word of a higher up.

>I quite frankly don't give a flying **** about what AKM says or thinks, because he is quite literally wrong in regards to how Reiatsu Crush even works.

That sounds like a you problem then. Not mine or anyone else's. Your welcome to disagree with him all you want, it's meaningless unless you actually refute what he's saying rather than sit here, ignore him and repeat "he's wrong" all day. It quite literally gets you nowhere here.

>Once again, let me reiterate that AKM is wrong and will always continue to be wrong on this subject.

Then actually debunk him. That is my main pet peeve with this whole RC issue. It's less that he's actually wrong and more that you just repeatedly claim he's wrong without doing anything about it. We can sit here and claim who's wrong all day, but nothing will actually happen.
 
Just like how its your motive to always make this personally about other people whenever an issue with Bleach comes up, like you did just now. And I have nothing to do with this besides going off of the word of a higher up.


Not really, I only do that with you and for good reason. You hold everything in Bleach to the highest levels of scrutiny for zero good reason and you make pointless threads at least once every few months about something trivial regarding Yhwach. All I'm doing is calling a spade a spade. No, you do have a lot to do with this considering your 9 times out of 10 the user who claims RC isn't accepted despite it being accepted. Your intent is questionable at best and several users will tell you this.


That sounds like a you problem then. Not mine or anyone else's. Your welcome to disagree with him all you want, it's meaningless unless you actually refute what he's saying rather than sit here, ignore him and repeat "he's wrong" all day. It quite literally gets you nowhere here.


I don't need to refute him when his information is based on shit that's blatantly incorrect. What your doing right now is using an Appeal to Authority Fallacy which isn't an argument. I do not need to refute him or debunk his "points" because he's objectively wrong on the matter. Again, if a staff tells you that the earth is flat it doesn't make them correct. This is quiet literally your enitre argument, and it's laughable if I'm to be honest.


Then actually debunk him. That is my main pet peeve with this whole RC issue. It's less that he's actually wrong and more that you just repeatedly claim he's wrong without doing anything about it. We can sit here and claim who's wrong all day, but nothing will actually happen.


Read my comment above, there is no debunking to be done because AKM's arguments aren't legitimate arguments. Do me a favor and drop the Appeal to Authority Fallacy, because that's your only argument and your holding onto it for dear life. AKM isn't the top authority here, so quit acting like he's right here despite him being objectively wrong here. And if you don't have any arguments aside from "BUT AKM SAID SO!!!!" them don't even reply to me, since I'd rather not associate myself with someone with such an ignorant and dismissive state of mind, good day to you sir because I'm done arguing with you.
 
"I'd say just postpone this until people feel like making the thread on RC.

Otherwise we just get a revision discussion in this thread which never amounts to anything."

^
 
That's fine and dandy, but the point still stands that RC is currently accepted and nothing is going to change that fact till the thread is made. And it'll have to be made after the RC blog is created.
 
The Prince of Counters said:
That's fine and dandy, but the point still stands that RC is currently accepted and nothing is going to change that fact till the thread is made. And it'll have to be made after the RC blog is created.
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I don't think it is accepted, AKM doesn't think it is, Kukui doesn't think it is, and many more users and staff based on some other threads.

So no matter what, it's always going to come up in threads like these until it gets sorted out and everyone can actually agree on if it's to be accepted. Whether you like it or not.
 
I'm seriously considering asking for a ban on Bleach matches involving RC until this is sorted out.

It's just a repeating cycle at this point.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
so are you saying someone plagiarized the profiles and added it?
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AKM's viewpoint isn't that RC doesn't exist. Nobody's even arguing that.
 
This isn't a case of me liking something or not, this is a case of what is objectively right and what isn't. I could care less if Bleach gets downgraded to 10-C as long as the reason is solid AKM was blatantly wrong on how the ability even works and quite literally all Kukui is saying is that "But AKM said no" which isn't a valid counterargument.


Until they get around to make a CRT with a valid reason then RC can and will continue to work in vs threads until we reach that point. The information is quite literally in the profiles and several staff members and knowledgeable users agree they need to make a CRT.
 
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