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Stalker vs. Kharn the Betrayer

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Stalker monitors Kharn from his ship on a barren planet (desert area) and deems Kharn's brutality to be unacceptable.

Airdropping in front of Kharn over 50 meters away, Stalker throws a kunai to grab the Chaos Space Marine's attention, drawing War and preparing for a battle.


Victory is achieved by KO or death (Kharn dying once counts as a loss)

Round 1: Post-Second Dream Stalker vs. Kharn (speed unequalized)

Round 2: Post-Second Dream Stalker vs. Kharn (speed equalized)

Stalker
Stalker

Kharn
Kharn the Betrayer


Votes (Round 1)

Stalker: 0

Kharn: 1

Inconclusive: 0

Votes (Round 2)

Stalker: 0

Kharn: 0 (1?)

Inconclusive: 0 (1?)
 
I got nothing else to do at this moment so whateve's.

R1: It's hard to say about the speed but i think Kharn in the end got's it. While he's vastly slow in terms of movement speed compared to Stalker but Khanr has FTL reactions and combat speed, meaning his reactions are higher and should be enough to even it out for him if not just give him the edge there, There's also the fact taht Kharn is stronger and durable than Stalker (tho apparently Stalker might be closer to his level due to being in his Post-Dream form. To what extent however, idk).

All in all, i think Kharn wins this due to higher stats and that reality warp power he has on him (something that likely seems to be the only thing tht can affect Stalker in terms of hax).

R2: More even in speed now but Kharn i believe still has it due to the above, it'll likely just be more difficult since the speed is even'd out.

All in all, i'm having it with Kharn both rounds.
 
Kharn: 1

Stalker: 0

I think the reality warp power you might be thinking of is his immunity to multiple forms of hax because of Khorne, because if I'm not wrong, Kharn doesn't fight with hax and in that sense has a sense of honor to him?

To elaborate on Stalker's abilities, they both have the potential to one-shot each other, as Stalker is a Warframe and should be capable of channeling, which is atomic destruction on contact at minimum. Kharn by virtue of being nearly a whole tier above him.

The extent of Stalker's durability is unknown, as he was able to withstand the power of the Operator, the whole reason the Warframes exist is to focus and hone their power into a surrogate body so they wouldn't be the destruction of themselves and all those around them.

Kharn definitely has the edge in experience, but Stalker deals with extremely gifted children with a mastery of nearly every form of melee and ranged combat.

All in all, it should be really close.
 
As just a quick clarification thing, Kharn himself does not warp reality. He's strictly a basic combat fighter. What he does is negate reality warping which would have a direct impact on his fight and be deemed "dishonorable" by Khorne, who is super big into martial honor.
 
Eh, might as well respond to this and bump it.

@Azathoth: If that's how it is, it should have been specified on his page anywhere (unless i'm overlooking it).

@Talonmask: Oh yeah i forgot about the channeling move until you pointed that out in chat yesterday. ^^;

And what Azzy said too on the reality warp thing, yeah~

On a serious note, you are right in that Stalkers channeling gives him some benefits here such as boosting his AP by 2 times (i think?) and being able to atomize the target upon contact (btw, the channeling is not on his page. Just to point that out).

After reviwing and thinking about it here and there, i believe that R2 for me will be inconclusive or either one's match since both can pretty much one shot each other. But R1 i still see Kharn winning that due to his higher reactions/combat speed being greater than Stalker's.
 
@Cross

It should all be under "Collar of Khorne" on his page. Though the "reality warping" under his powers and abilities should probably be Power Nullification since that page exists, now.

Unless it's referring to his axe or armor, which both have reality warping properties in certai ways.
 
@Azathoth: Oup, your right. I keep overlooking that part. ^^;

Yeah it should definitely be updated or something at this point.

Hmm. If the armor does have some sort of reality warp on him, then maybe the channeling power of Stalker would be nullified as well? As what Talon told me and from looking over at the other Wraframe pages, it allows the user to atomize the target upon contact with their weapon or whatever as well as double their AP. Would that count as "dishonerable combat" (on the atomizing part) cause if so Kharn still wins either way on both rounds.
 
Tenno are all about honorable combat and seek to maintain that honor, channeling isn't likely to be seen as a cheap trick as it requires them to actually connect, essentially besting your opponent. That's not something that would normally be seen as dishonorable.
 
Well, the armour is more like added protection from Khorne and the Warp itself, since it can sometimes nullify attacks that would otherwise heavily damage Kharn. As in, when you hit him, it's not a guarantee your attack is going to do everything you thought it would. I recall one instance where a powerful Grey Knight shot some bolts of Warp energy at Kharn, and it just kind of...stops once it makes contact with him.

Not sure. I highly doubt atomization would count as dishonorable combat if it came from direct attacks, since it's just an added effect from an attack and you're still actually fighting, but there's not a guarantee it would work due to Khorne's blessings.
 
Hmm. Yeah that part for me is really confusing.

IDK. I guess that the armor of Kharn's could allow him to stay in the battle longer. Though it didn't say if it can allow him to counter atomization from Stalker going by what Talon put here.

Hmm....really someting here for me.....hmm...
 
It should be noted that Stalker uses his Power Nullification to force his opponent to fight with weaponry alone, Stalker deliberately does this to fight fairly, yet never attempts to disable channeling.

I am no way trying to imply that Stalker's Dispel is capable of disabling Khorne's blessings, as Khorne is so ridiculously above Stalker, I just thought it would be something worthy of mentioning.
 
Alright.

Well anyways i think that now (hopefully the last time i consider changing my vote point for this), at least for R2 it's either a win for Kharn again due to still being higher and more durable or inconclusive due to both being able to one-shot each other.

So......yeah.
 
Old, but I think we should discuss Stalker's level here. Depending on his level the Stalker is either a chump or a walking god among men. Seeing how strong Kharn is though I'm going to assume that the Stalker is going to scale with him like he does with Warframes. If that is the case Stalker's abilities should be too much for even Kharn to handle. Tank a few hits from Kharn while using absorb will ensure that even if the Stalker can't hurt Kharn with his weapons the force from Kharn's should do the trick. That and as mentioned earlier the Stalker uses chanelling. However we don't mention damage types here. Seeing as how he's post second dream here he'll be armed with War. Given War's damage type it might just give him the edge needed to beat Kharn. For now I'll place my vote on the Stalker. If he's like level five or something though forget it he's a chump. If he's in the hundreds it'll more practical.
 
On another note it'd be hilarious if the Stalker was at level where the one Despair thrown at the start of the match leaves a hole through Khan killing him instantly. Piercing is how you beat armor in Warframe after all.
 
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