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Naga,Grima,and Robin upgraded to 5-B.

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OK,so as the title says Naga Grima,and Robin from the Fire Emblem series should be upgraded to at least 5-B.

Why?well,because of this

Fire Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem Chapter 6-1
Fire Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem Chapter 6-1

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Wendall:You have seen the "Starsphere"- The holy orb with the twelve constellations etched on its surface.In order to pierce Gharnef's shadowy veil,Lord Gotoh created a sacred spell named "Starlight" from that orb.Unfortunately,the strain on the starsphere was so severe that it shattered into twelve shards,which scattered into the sky.Lord Gotoh told me that this world has long been guarded by five orbs of mysterious arcane power,and that if even one of them is lost,the world will fall into irreparable ruin.

The fire emblem's gemstones literally hold the world together in a manner not unlike Lorule and it's triforce.Also bear in mind that this is if even ONE of the five gemstones is destroyed.Naga created the fire emblem and its gemstones so it obviously scales to him/her,Grima is treated as Naga's equal,and Robin is capable of killing Grima.
 
Assuming this is legit, since it scales to Naga, wouldn't it scale to Medeus as well, due to the two of them fighting each other?

As for whether this is legit or not, I'm uncertain. I'll wait for other people to voice their opinions first.
 
Yeah, I'm averse to such vague statements without feats.

Medeus really hasn't shown that kind of power (at least from my experience) to justify such a rating. 6-B or 6-A would be tops for this feat, if it's legit (I've played both Shadow Dragon and Mystery of the Emblem and I can't recall any other feats that would corroborate this statement).
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Assuming this is legit, since it scales to Naga, wouldn't it scale to Medeus as well, due to the two of them fighting each other?
As for whether this is legit or not, I'm uncertain. I'll wait for other people to voice their opinions first.
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If Medeus scaled to Naga then why aren't they on the same tier?Besides,IIRC Medeus never even directly fought Naga.It was just Medeus' army vs Naga's army.
 
Medeus' page is a bit vague imo

His page doesn't mention his own army, and it also somewhat implies that they had actually combated each other directly, since it justifies Medeus' 6-B ranking by scaling him to the Falchion and his battle/war with Naga.

But regardless, it seems as though everyone thinks this feat isn't much greater then what has already been established as the top level of power in the Fire Emblem Verse, so... It wouldn't really matter even if it did scale.
 
Sounds more 6-A/5-C than 5-B to me. Since we don't have evidence like Demise, who according to Hyrule Historia, he LITERALLY was going to destroy the planet
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
Not sure if falling into Ruin is really 5-B. Maybe High 6-A?
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That didn't stop Lorule not having a triforce turning the kingdom to ruin from bumping the triforce to planet level nor did it stop Majora killing everything on the earth's surface from bumping him to planet level,either.Besides,is this really harder to accept than Medeus being country level from ruining countries during his war with Naga over a presumably long period of time or FTL Elibe characters because they can dodge sparkles from some regalia tome?
 
697086 said:
Sounds more 6-A/5-C than 5-B to me. Since we don't have evidence like Demise, who according to Hyrule Historia, he LITERALLY was going to destroy the planet
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Demise has a vague as **** statement that he could "destroy the world" which depending on what that means wouldn't even require country level DC,much less planet level.
 
@Misato:This is no more "featless" than planet level demise.What,so vague WOG statements are totally legit for upgrading a character who barely has any screentime in his own game but a major plot point in Mystery of the emblem somehow doesn't work?Why?Because it's not Zelda?
 
The real cal howard said:
Everyone, stop comparing this to Zelda. It's getting off topic, as well as annoying.
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Hey,I'm just saying that if it's apparently good enough to upgrade Majora to planet level from razing the surface of Termina and Demise to be planet level from a vague WOG statement I'm legitimately surprised this is getting met with so much resistance since that's pretty much what this is,WOG. unless it's due to preconceived notions about the power of the verse or something idk.Especially since we've got guy's like Ashunera, who's global flooding feat had a high end of small planet IIRC.
 
There hasn´t been any PLanet Level feat in Fire Emblem.

All statements that do not represent an actual feat or make sense in the narrative (Marth enduring a planet level character´s attack when he is hurt by swords and arrows)

Deal with it and close this thread
 
Marth has never fought either of these characters,and no,Medeus doesn't scale to Naga so Marth's level of strength is irrelevant.

Y'know,I could list all the characters on this wiki that are listed as planet level but are from series with precisely zero planetbusting feats but I won't because I doubt that that's gonna change your mind,anyway.
 
You can put Naga at wathever tier you want.


But Grima and Robin are staying Country? (Featless and doubtable), since he scales to Marth, who scales to Chrom, which scaled to Lucina, which scales to Itsuki.


You are literallty asking a change out of a out of context quote that says literally nothing.


CLose this.
 
Naga straight up tells you in awakening that she and Grima are relative equals.Hell,in the future past timeline Grima straight up kills Naga.Marth does NOT scale to Grima.The first time Grima shows up in the timeline is one thousand years after Marth's death.Grima is multi-continent currently btw as is Robin as this wiki currently scales the two off of each other.

"You are literally asking a change out of a out of context quote".

First off,I didn't leave out shit.The rest of the scene is basically just Marth being dumbfounded that the world really might end if the starsphere isn't restored soon.

Secondly,you do realize that there are several characters on this wiki that are at the level they are due to statements,right?
 
>Multi Continent Grima


Oh man.


Dude, you are wanking, Grima has literally no Continental feats.

He did not even destroy Ylisse, just destroyed the cities and stuff, the continent was still there.

We made him Country Level JUST BASED ON THE LORE, he has no feats of such claims.


"The world falling to ruin" literally means anything but PLanet Level.

Stop wanking.
 
Misato Wild Cards said:
>Multi Continent Grima

Oh man.


Dude, you are wanking, Grima has literally no Continental feats.

He did not even destroy Ylisse, just destroyed the cities and stuff, the continent was still there.

We made him Country Level JUST BASED ON THE LORE, he has no feats of such claims.


"The world falling to ruin" literally means anything but PLanet Level.

Stop wanking.
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vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/grima

Take that up with the site.

Besides,there are tons of characters who rely primarily on scaling.Grima just happens to be one of those characters.

FYI are you confusing Grima with Medeus?That's who this site has at country level.Granted,that's BS seeing as how even compositing him with noncanon material gives you like,city level.
 
That link is invalid.


Your argument has so many holes i actually confused it with a swiss cheese.


You have no evidence other than out of context quotes to wank Awakening characters.

please present proof or leave.
 
Whatever,multi-continent is just the higher end of continent anyway.Also,I find it funny how you're accusing me of wanking awakening top tiers when this is from new mystery of the emblem and primarily applies to Naga. It just so happens that Grima scales to Naga(and I guess Robin scales to Grima,apparently)I mean,if we only went by direct feats then Ganondorf and Link would be like,city level and building level each even though this site lists them at planet level for some reason.
 
Dude, you lost.


Your quote literally means nothing.

Until you show me a direct feat of Grima destroying a single continent, call me.


Because this wank is going nowhere.
 
Misato Wild Cards said:
Dude, you lost.

Your quote literally means nothing.

Until you show me a direct feat of Grima destroying a single continent, call me.


Because this wank is going nowhere.
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Literally how I feel about multiversal Undertale and planet level Zelda.
 
I don't think Cheeper is doing anything wrong, its just a misunderstanding that blew up. That said, I'm a bit uncertain on the upgrade, "leaving the world in ruin" could be High 6-A but it could also be 6-A. Maybe "6-A, possibly High 6-A" might work?
 
As most people have said that sentence is really too vague to put to 5-B, you could probably put something like possibly higher (pretty much what dark said)
 
I mean,ypu've accepted upgrades for characters based on less solid foundation *cough*solar system cell from a boasting villain and guidebooks that also attempt to canonize anime filler*cough*planet level demise from a vague HH statement that he "commands" enough power to destroy the world*cough* but OK.
 
I agree with Darkanine. Besides, we don't think two wrongs make a right thus either way, it's pointless to refer to what you may perceive to be vague.
 
Then what is the proper context then,oh expert on FE lore?I'm legitimately asking since this is just something I found as I was playing the game.The wiki doesn't really say much either and the super famicom version says pretty much the same thing with the only difference being that the mystery of the emblem fan translation is total garbage.This isn't any different than the statements that the black beast or Demise are able to "destroy the world" or the Lorulean triforce being planet level because destroying it,say it with me now,"Brought ruin to the kingdom of Lorule."

Also,I must really have rustled your jimmies if you're STILL commenting on this.
 
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