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How notable does something have to be to be Reality Equalized? Also Danny Phantom example question

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The text of this page keeps saying a fictional character or his simulated/fictional reality needs to be "Notable". What is notable enough, what isn't, and what determines notability? Is it a specific amount of screentime in minutes, hours, episodes, words, or comic book pages? Does the fictional work's "Camera" perspective thingy need to go inside this fictional world and show it from within the simulation for it to count?

Danny Phantom has an episode where the group plays a video game called Doomed against Technus, a tech-controlling ghost villain. The camera perspective frequently shows shots of the game from outside and from within, plus both Technus and Danny are able to access the world of this game and cheat inside the game using their ghost powers as if this was a real world. But when Danny and friends are murdered within this game, Sam and Tucker's avatars die while Danny (in the game for real) is physically ejected from the game. What does this mean?

And why would anything need to be "Notable" before it can be "Reality equalized" into a theoretical discussion on whether Naruto could or could not beat up Rumble McSkirmish, Ben 10, Neo in movie 1 with all his in-the-Matrix powers, and Ishiyama(that one Sumo Slammer guy from the Ben 10 episode where Ben and Gwen get sucked into Ben's Sumo Slammer videogame) at the same time?
 
I don't know how "Notable" something would half to be in order to be "Reality Equalized".

In Danny Phantom's case, Danny and Technus both went into the game by using their ghost powers. While Technu created a complete digital body for himself, Danny's ghostly essence took over his in game character. The to could still use their ghost powers but still had to abide by some of the rules of the worlds programming. As shown, Technus got stronger with every enemy he defeated and could not escape the game after being put into Level 0. The game had to literally be deleted with him inside and even after that he wasn't able to escape the computer normally.

What they did was basically turn into and merged with the data/tech.
 
Okay, now we also have the issue of Rikka and Calvin and Hoblles to discuss of too, regarding the standards for this.
 
I believe if a world is consistent enough along with characters, it should be fine. People like Calvin have consistent characters and worlds, and thus I think should be ok. The only ones that shouldn't be are ones where it's inconsistent, and or Gags. On off gags, such as High School Rumble doing a Anime mixture scene with Harama becoming super powerful should not be used. It appeared once and was a gag.

Other cases may have to be judged case by case. (Not the best example since I doubt we want a verse on them but)

Rugrats. They consistently are doing things in their imagination land that are beyond their normal feats. Doing this is extremely common in the show. Happens in a good majority of the show iirc.
 
Rugrats is a no as they really only happen once and are never reocurring stuff, except for Reptar, I guess, whihc would be fine. Rugrats could be fine if we get some of their best feats with a calc, the movies have some noteworthy stuff.
 
So yea, that's a good example of a verse who shouldn't qualify. They do technically have a lot of imagination based stiff, but it always is changing settings, who they are, Ect. Reptar May be good for a page though probably best we don't have a verse entirely of babies. Even if they have a legit Street-Wall feat in their real world
 
I mean, they also have a continuation series where everyone is a teenager, so feats can be taken from there too.

Anyways, the standards for how much they (fictional within fiction beings) have to appear appears to be already set up.

The question would be how much Rikka's imagination is consistent, the same goes with Calvin and Hobbes, which would require knowledgeable members on those.
 
True. I'll check that out myself then

But. So we don't derail. I think it should be easy enough to judge them. As long as it fits the categories, it probably is fine. Special cases can be judged, but that's comes with most any page
 
Yeah, I'll ask on the other thread for the knowledgeable members to give some input here, as that's the main thing.
 
Bobsican said:
Okay, now we also have the issue of Rikka and Calvin and Hoblles to discuss of too, regarding the standards for this.
Why are you putting that in this thread? I don't think Reality Equalization has anything to do with imaginary scenes.
 
Bobsican said:
Okay, now we also have the issue of Rikka and Calvin and Hoblles to discuss of too, regarding the standards for this.
^^^^^^^

It was said on the deletion thread about bringing this conversation here
 
Because they need it, plus some of the standards within it seemingly support some content that's questionable on the above staying.
 
@Butters You should start your own thread instead of hijacking an unrelated thread, is my point.

@Bob I don't know what that means.
 
Basically, I thought there was a relation between imaginary "feats" and reality equalization, imaginary stuff isn't real, and we all know that, but with reality equalization things can change, althought that may be debatable in if that's applicable to such.

I can see this being somewhat off-topic to the thread itself, but if it's too off-topic I guess an actual thread to discuss the stuff may be done in that case.
 
I was only typing here because that was what was said to do.

I didn't bring up the subject itself. I just said I didn't have a problem with some of these characters existing should they fit a certain criteria. Bob was the one who was gonna make the thread on it. And from the comments. Ant said

"You can link to the thread here afterwards."

With him responding with

"Well, this thread appears to have been of discussion quite a while ago, so the above can be discussed further there."


Linking this one. That's why I commented here.
 
I don't think a single episode or something is enough.

It should be preferably recurrent and a decent part of the verse.


Also I definitively wouldn't include fantasies and shit into that. Those are not separate things from the real world. It's too loose and interminged with the real world to be considered a lower or higher reality or whatever.
 
Imaginary characters are not a part of reality equalization since they fundamentally are not "reality". They're fake. Regardless of equalization, they're fake, in no way are they real, so they can't be equalized to be "real".

Stop hijacking a thread about something different. Make a thread if you must, but just know that it's a pointless argument. Thanks much.
 
Either way, shouldn't this be its own thread?
 
My apologies, I just couldn't properly think back then what to word the thread as.

Anyways, as they don't really qualify and all for staying (reality equalization being a no and all), I think this topic is concluded.

Calvin and Hobbles will need its own CRT as this affects most of their profiles, however.
 
What are the conclusions here?
 
Right now the vast majority consensus is that imaginary characters shouldn't be included, regardless of their consistency.

However, Bob still wants to make a separate thread for how Calvin and Hobbes should be changed with this knowledge.
 
Okay. Thanks for the information. Should we write a regulation text for this somewhere?
 
Well, a clarification on the Reality Equalization page regarding those is a good idea, as this isn't really something to be expected being known.

Anyways, here's the Calvin and Hobbles CRT
 
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