• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Status
Not open for further replies.
3,093
1,265
Homer Simpson and Ayumu Aikawa get into a fight over a limited-sales special pie

Speed equalized. Fight takes place in London at night. SBA for rest

All equipment available. Ayumu starts in his Masou Shoujo form and is allowed to reach 1000%

Homer Simpso:

Ayumu Aikawa: 2 (Butter, Anomalous)

Inconclusive:

Homer Simpson 2006
Ayumu Masou
 
He needs to stand still a few seconds to stat amp. The higher he wants to amp, the longer he has to stay still. Ayumu's Mid-High regen isn't as fast as his Mid
 
It still doesn't matter. Homer can literally not win. Even if the regen took a little. They still can heal far higher than homer could put them down with
 
Homer is a better martial artist, has access to radiation/sound/earth manipulation and toon force, and until Ayumu stat amps enough, he has the AP advantage. Homer also has Mid regen of his own
 
GoldenScorpions said:
Homer is a better martial artist, has access to radiation/sound/earth manipulation and toon force, and until Ayumu stat amps enough, he has the AP advantage. Homer also has Mid regen of his ow
I mean yeah there's that for Homer actually... But her regen would help her out by a lot, these qualities who knows what Homer accomplishes with this, and its late where I'm at maybe later would come up with a conclusion though Ayumu might seem to get this yellow donut in the bag.
 
It's not like Pressure Points don't work. They're simply less effective than normal. Is the higher regen really what's keeping this from going on? I dunno, but it seems to me Homer has a pretty solid arsenal at his disposal
 
His arsenal literally means Jack. None of it can kill him or put him in a place that leaves him incapacitated long enough

And with resisting pressure points. How do they resist. Explain that. Cause either he can resist them and this fight is a stomp cause he resists Homers only win option. Or he doesn't resist them
 
Ayumu resists pressure points from other characters in the series, but it's that: a resistance. He's not immune to them.

And again, Homer has Mid regen and Ayumu can't harm him until he stat amps high. The fight starts with 8-C Homer vs 9-A Ayumu; before the stat amp, Mid-High regen or not, Homer has a big AP advantage + range he can use to put Ayumu down before he realizes he has to stat amp.

It's not a stomp, because Homer is more than capable of harming Ayumu; he's not helpless. Both can harm the other, each under some circumstances.
 
Harming is not what qualifies

Winning is what qualifies. Which homer can't. It is so unrealistic to say homer would be able to considering his only apparent win option is one his opponent resists. His opponent also can grow a tier higher than homer. His range is useless. As none of it actually helps in a win. And an AP advantage is useless to that regen.
 
A stomp is when one of the fighters is utterly powerless. This isn't the case here. Both Ayumu and Homer can damage the other; the way you describe things only means Homer won't deal enough, fast enough, bc of Ayumu's higher regen (which I'm still not convinced about non-amped Ayumu, but whatever). A case could even be made about inconclusive as both have Type 2 Immortality.

Anyway, this isn't a stomp. Homer has some advantages over Ayumu, and while resisted, pressure points WILL slow Ayumu down
 
I dunno why people believe resistance = completely unaffected. If a character was truly unaffected by something, it'd be said on the profile.
 
So should I close this thread?
 
@Ant Yes. Please do. It's a massive stomp grasping at straws to keep itself open. Not only does this character get the ability to jump past a tier Homer is, Regen makes a win entirely impossible to do with any weapons, and they resist his only win potential option. So that Ike doesn't even work.

@Golden. You are 100 percent wrong. A stomp is not homer lacks the capability to hurt him. It's Homer lacks the capability to actually win the fight. It's not homer has the ability to deal damage and kill them and just simply doesn't do it in time. It's he can't overpower that regen by any means and literally could not kill them. Flat. With a gun, with his bare strength. And that's not how type 2 immortality work at all. Just because they have that type of immortality, doesn't make them entirely unkillable. Cause here's the thing. Once he jumps tiers past homer. He one shots, Homers a bloody mess. Homer does not heal, cause his regen and immortality doesn't cover that kind of damage. This debate has no debate in it. Homer can not kill them. Your grasping at straws. The pure fact they he resists PP make this a stomp. There is 0 room for debate on it. For the same reason your trying to use the logic "oh well. He technically isn't immune so that's a win condition"

Well Homer flat out doesn't win, can't win, has any realistic chance to win, and is not going to win ever. Which qualifies under our terms of a stomp.
 
Homer starts ~x50 stronger than Ayumu, and IF Ayumu manages to stat amp, he becomes ~x26 stronger than Homer.

You're telling me Homer has NO way to defeat an opponent he's x50 stronger than?
 
GoldenScorpions said:
Homer starts ~x50 stronger than Ayumu, and IF Ayumu manages to stat amp, he becomes ~x26 stronger than Homer.

You're telling me Homer has NO way to defeat an opponent he's x50 stronger than?
Yes. Because despite being 50 times stronger. He Can Not Kill Him. Which means it is Not A win condition. Making your entire argument Null and void
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top