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Masadaverse Discussion Thread 28

Here's something that I wanted to address from the previous thread:

TonySansNom said:
The ****'s a sensory anyway if you can "be made into" one.
Hajun's a special case. While most (if not every) Hadou God on the Throne can just make a sensory, Hajun's craving (and more importantly, his ego) doesn't allow him to do that. So, instead of making one, he just finds a person whose desires coincide with his own (e.g.: Madara and Reizen) and gives them a portion of his power to go wipe out everyone else.

Similar logic can be applied to Hajun not having an Apoptosis. His ego does not allow him to have the subconscious desire for his own death, so he doesn't have an Apoptosis.
 
Finally got around to reading latest chapter (Still didn't finish yet!). There's a lot to cover about Frederica, her kenzoku or in simple terms, her faction, Munsar─üto (her most loyal servant) and The Garden of Bloodshed

  • First of all, Frederica kenzoku (Called...Saw? why ÒâÄÒé│Òé«Ò⬠lol) are murderers who kill only humans. They have a very strict code to murder any human while being kind to all other living creatures. Thus, young members uses human flash as their own source of food, while more old ones simply live from minerals and water to even nothing. In fact, Frederica loyal servant, Munsar─üto, belongs to last category, having not ate anything for 50 years now. Additionally, Munsar─üto is a one of the "four special class Daeva". We also have some information on the Garden of Bloodshed. It appears it's a complete dimension existing outside the world. Connection to world has certain conditions in which a bridge will be made, linking the Garden to whatever location the conditions have been made. Also the Garden of Bloodshed holds over 1k member of the Saws. The Garden of Bloodshed was created Frederica. Speaking of Frederica, if you guys remember the prologue which showcased a mother suiciding herself to kill the fetus (as the mother was on the good side and the fetus was on the evil side per Avesta), welp, Frederic is the bloody fetus
Gonna finish the chapter later
 
Zouken said:
Is Yazata the name of the Group of Protagonists in Avesta?
Yazata is the name of those who belong to the Good side

Btw, we're having some trap action here with Ferdows being dressed in a belly dancer outfit (Quinn and Samn are too wearing it)

Goddamit...i really want an art of that
 
WanderingAsura said:
Here's something that I wanted to address from the previous thread:
TonySansNom said:
The ****'s a sensory anyway if you can "be made into" one.
Hajun's a special case. While most (if not every) Hadou God on the Throne can just make a sensory, Hajun's craving (and more importantly, his ego) doesn't allow him to do that. So, instead of making one, he just finds a person whose desires coincide with his own (e.g.: Madara and Reizen) and gives them a portion of his power to go wipe out everyone else.

Similar logic can be applied to Hajun not having an Apoptosis. His ego does not allow him to have the subconscious desire for his own death, so he doesn't have an Apoptosis.
Thanks. It makes a lot of sense.
 
SleepyTBubble said:
Zouken said:
Is Yazata the name of the Group of Protagonists in Avesta?
Yazata is the name of those who belong to the Good side

Btw, we're having some trap action here with Ferdows being dressed in a belly dancer outfit (Quinn and Samn are too wearing it)

Goddamit...i really want an art of that
Pretty sure they're using Ashavan if its referring to the good bunch in general. Yazatas are just their elite warriors, much like how the Daevas are the Dregvant's elite warriors
 
Mashyana is a purebreed Star Spirit, and Bhavan is just a battle maniac who faces anything and anyone he meets with his full power. In fact, he basically is the reason for 90% of the Archdemon replacements these last 2,000 years.
 
It is something about the ranking of Gods.

I can read that it says Hajun > Yato, thats about all I can read, but the list continues further.

It also talks about not knowing if ranking them is a good idea.

Don't take my word as Law, my Japanese is not the best.
 
well I try to translate the whole scan including the question and the answer because there some shit I need it
 
GogitoQ said:
The closest thing I can give you is Trex talking about it when Ravy found it:

"Also, saw you are looking for the famous "Dies' cast powerlevel statement". Well, it's in the 5th scan, first heading. Masada ranks the Gods in strength order. It goes Hajun>Yatou>Mercurius=Apoptosis Reinhard>Marie=Amaterasu>Satanel=Reinhard=Ren>Muzan>Mithra>Habaki=Rindou=Yakou>Shiori=Soujirou>Ryuusui. Alongside this explanation of KKK's stat page only going up to 70, but in truth, it should go up to 100. In such stat page, Yatou is a 100, Hajun breaks the scale (in a nutshell, not literally translating here) and Mercurius would be a 90."
 
i'm pretty sure that list got retconned. how Satanel > Muzan and yet according to Satanel himself he isn't capable of defeating Muzan in 1v1? and only overcomed him through intellegence, making a paradox and erasing Mithra and Muzan.
 
Saoshyant Desatir said "predeccesor" with absolutely nothing to indicate it was a plural. Mithra was totally unaffected by such maneuver.

As for that, Masada is really fond of making these type of characters, weak ones who are able to overcome stronger characters through special interaction of their powers. As an example, even though Fan Jinron couldn't beat Amakasu in a straight 1vs1, the exotic nature of his power makes it very much possible.
 
@Trex

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We're now in the time where even spoons in Masadaverse can scoop out space.
 
SleepyTBubble said:
@Trex
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We're now in the time where even spoons in Masadaverse can scoop out space.
Well, Munsarat's weapon of choice is a 2 meter circular saw capable of creating a vortex in the atmosphere, crushing everything around it with its heavy and intense, overwhelming pressure, that can make the stars go out of alignment. And the maids Regenerationn is almost on gladsheimr level
 
Ah, Magic Spoons. Just wait untill next chapter reveals the Spork, which would make even Longinus look weak in comparision.

Also what would the proper transcription of Òé¿Òâ½ÒâèÒâ╝Òé║ (Erun─üzu) be? It seems to be Druj Nasu.
 
Elnaz/Elners

No, those aren't magic tools, the 2 maids used your everyday tableware like a simple spoon or plate as tools for murder, that destructive power comes from them and transcends the laws of physics like it usually is for high ranking daevas.
 
I saw the Elnaz one, I just know this is a very Zoroastrian based Shrine. So thought it was a reference to Nasu, a Zoroastrian Demon of sorts.
 
Zouken said:
I saw the Elnaz one, I just know this is a very Zoroastrian based Shrine. So thought it was a reference to Nasu, a Zoroastrian Demon of sorts.
Star Cluster of Extinction Saurva, Rank 1 Demon King, Khvarenah.

Singularity Angra Mainyu, Rank 2 Demon King, Nadare.

Violent Locust Swarm Aeshma, Rank 3 Demon King, Bhavan.

Garden of Bloodshed, Rank 4 Demon King, Frederica.

Dakhman Druj Nasu, Rank 5 Demon King, Mashyana.

Star Dragon Corpse Zahak, Rank 6 Demon King, Kaikhosru

Domain of the True King Jahi, Rank 7 Demon King, Aka Manah.
 
Okay, so Nasu is Mashyana. So a completely different individual. Am I understanding what you are saying correctly.

So the Maid is Elnaz, and Druj is the Demon King.
 
Mashyana is the Demon King, Dakhman Druj Nas is a location, her domain like Zahak for Kaikhosru or the Garden of Bloodshed for Frederica.
 
Zouken said:
Okay, thanks, that makes sense.

And just to make sure, Kaiho killed Zahak, the last 6th Demon King, and made its corpse his domain.
We don't know if the dragon/star spirit Kaikhosru killed was a Demon King but it probably wasn't one since it was called as "benevolent dragon who blessed (its) planet", "heavenly golden dragon" and such.
 
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