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Izuku fights an Old Man (grace)

Buttersamuri

Buttersamuri

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Haha. More Burns fighting people.

Burns is 10-C. But has his gun (which is 8-C+)

Base Deku, Beginnings form. (9-A)

Speed is equal

They are both in an apartment building and don't know where the other is, but know they want the other dead

There. Who wins and why?

Old Man Murders Kid: 4

Kid Murders old Ma: 7

Inconclusive/Draw:
 
well, they can both one-shot eachother and both will probably be damaging themselves with each attack, izuku is physically superior in every regard but he cant do much against a gun. hmm....
 
,*deku starts running towards the old man*

,*bang*

,*deku's lifeless body falls to the ground*

,*mr. burns gets launched backwards by the recoil of the gun, hits his head and is knocked unconsious*
 
thats assuming he is far enough away from him for a gun to be useful tho

edit: saw this starts in an apartment?
 
An apartment building. So they will have some range. Burns will definitely have some room to shoot, as will Deku to his range stuff. But they also aren't sure where the other is.
 
Man if i was Izuku, id just go back home.

But anyway I think the gun wins.
 
they are in an apartment building, so a gun is very effective.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Uuuuuuuuh.. why exactly would a gun be effective at all on Deky unless it was at point blank range?
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Because the gun is a Building level+ piercing gun. Deku gets hit by that and it's lights out
 
Since when does being in a building make you incapable of dodging? Speed is equalized, and if Burns misses or hits a non-vital spot, he's screwed.
 
oh, i didnt see speed was equalized.. It didnt seem like it would be necessary.
 
Therefir said:
Since when does being in a building make you incapable of dodging? Speed is equalized, and if Burns misses or hits a non-vital spot, he's screwed.
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If he hits Deku flat, dekus probably screwed. The gun fires with energy to pierce a building level+. So Deku won't be seeing good results by being shot anywhere by it.
 
The bullet is going to pierce him like a butter, but I don't see how that's going to stop Deku if he's hit in the arm or a similar body part, considering his enormous pain resistance and stamina.
 
But I'm not very easy to cut through

Well. It at the very least would send him flying back. The energy it would give off is much more than Deku could handle to stand his ground if getting tagged by it. As well. The hole it would leave would be a lot more gapping and do a lot more damage due to the energy. If it hit his arm, it potentially could take it off just because of how much energy is behind it. And that's with only one bullet. Should burns fire more than one. It's probably gonna be fatal. Despite the Pain resistance. The damage it does would likely be too mucj
 
By that logic all attacks of higher AP would just send you flying, which... is not something I think we normally assume here.

R A T H E R

A bullet with that much energy would just punch clean through him and do added damage due to how much energy it has but.... that's, that's not really blowing him back.

And unless they are literally a meter apart or something, Deku has should have more than enough room to move the hell out of the way with speed equal to ensure there's at least not a lethal wound.
 
Well. One side needs to be picked then.

Cause the way it was said. If Burns misses his shot or doesn't hit somewhere fatal, he is screwed.

That makes it sound like the logic of the bullet having that much energy. As it means burns would be sent back. But if not, if we say it wouldn't send him or Deku back. Then burns can shoot more than once.


If anything. I prefer we go off the logic that burns can fire his gun without suffering recoil as thats what is most consistent in the show. Which means he can fire multiple times. But they would be blowing off limbs. It will however go through Deku with ease.

And they would be several meters apart. They are in an apartment building and don't know where each other are.
 
Well yes, but the recoil of a gun is much different from the impact of one. Why do you think many people at times just stand there as they take a shot? The super small surface area affected plus the high kinetic energy makes it go cleanly through unless it hits something like a bone or a lot of mass, but that's small caliber bullets. Something with this much power would just cut through it like butter(how ironic) while maybe adding some more damage due to just how much energy it has.

Which leaves him totally able to fight if he can evade, which he can with speed equal, even if it only gets something like an arm. He can easily deal with the pain and getting an arm ****** since... this is an everyday occurance.
 
Well. Normally I wouldn't see a gun doing much. But this gun is nearly 2 degrees of levels above Dekus. It's close to Large building level hitting through. So lead that's able to break through the bones of people of that degree In durability. Seems like it should do immense amounts more damage to someone a large degree weaker. At least in this case, if it made contact with the bone, i would think the bone itself would shatter apart. Much like if you smack a car windshield with a hatchet hard enough, a large amount of the windshield can break across the entire car. In this case. If the bullet struck bone, the amount of energy it can provide should definitely be enough to do far more damage. I would argue it would break and probably entirely shatter the bone it hits should it hit one of them. Would at least break the bone it hits.
 
You do know that by this logic guns should kill us no matter what, right? Except they don't because what kills you is the damage to a lethal area.

Bleeding in a main artery could actually do a lot to deku if it actually hits his arm, but that gives him plenty of time still to go after Burns and help him commit not alive.
 
At this point, the argument should be more focused on Deku's dodging skills and the weapon itself, keep in mind that the movement of a bullet is very simple and linear, making it predictable and way easier to dodge. With the speed equalized, I think it would be easy for Deku to dodge them.

>And they would be several meters apart. They are in an apartment building and don't know where each other are.

Deku probably have the experience advantage if that's the case, he has fought Bakugou in a similar condition at the beginning of his career, and was able to dodge Bakugou's surprise attack. Not to mention that he'll be very careful not to show his position.
 
IRL guns vs us is differ to Burns gun vs Deku. It may be a small piece of metal. But it still would do extreme damage. Not saying it breaks his entire arm, and kills him. I'm just saying. A piece of metal flying with enough energy to penetrate and damage the bones and body of a Building level+ person, is gonna do some really bad damage to someone who's extremely weaker to it. It's gonna do serious damage. That energy would likely break the bone it tags (not the entire arm. Just the bone itself).
 
Will say. It will get harder to dodge closer range due to the speed of the gun and speed being equal making it harder to dodge.

But that's five for burns, And Two for Deku then? If Therefir was voting
 
@Buttersamuri I'm voting for Deku, he has a better chance of winning, while Burns depends on catching Deku by surprise, which is going to be difficult considering how Deku tends to act in such conditions, and even if that were to happen, Deku is still capable of dodging Burns' bullets, he could even use the walls of the apartment to do it, as he did with Bakugou.
 
Yeah Deku seems to have an easier when condition compared to Burns so I'd say Deku FRA because of having the better winning condition with mid difficulties.
 
A breeze couldn't hurt him. That's both inconsistent and a joke

And yes he can. He has shown he can handle to recoil of his pistol and rifle.
 
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