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Not in canon.Tivanenk said:Shaka, easy. Time manipulation is something that Saints have experienced and resisted before.
Not an argument. Because everything is canonBrunout said:Not in canon.Tivanenk said:Shaka, easy. Time manipulation is something that Saints have experienced and resisted before.
No its not, Its like saying that both lost canvas and next dimension are canon. Nope,Tivanenk said:Not an argument. Because everything is canonBrunout said:Not in canon.Tivanenk said:Shaka, easy. Time manipulation is something that Saints have experienced and resisted before.
That "universal" attack is not really universal, because that attack *symbolizes* the end/beginnig of the universe. symbolizes.Celestial Pegasus said:I checked both of their prefiles and both are universe level so no one has the ap advantage though shak is only universe level with his strongest attack but hax>dc anyway and shak certainly has the more impressive hax here, shaka wins because of hax.
No, it actually stated that it caused the birth and death of countless universes when it clashed.Brunout said:That "universal" attack is not really universal, because that attack *symbolizes* the end/beginnig of the universe. symbolizes.Celestial Pegasus said:I checked both of their prefiles and both are universe level so no one has the ap advantage though shak is only universe level with his strongest attack but hax>dc anyway and shak certainly has the more impressive hax here, shaka wins because of hax.
It was stated in the manga that the whole "destruction and birht of several universes" was just symbolic
Exactly, so we cannot use feats from a differente/alternate story to the main canon.Tivanenk said:Both Lost Canvas and Next Dimension are canon. They just take place in different universes.
Except we can apply resistances because every Cosmo user uses the same damn energy.Brunout said:Exactly, so we cannot use feats from a differente/alternate story to the main canon.Tivanenk said:Both Lost Canvas and Next Dimension are canon. They just take place in different universes.
So what? Its like saying that Game Super Sonic and Super Sonic X have multi-universal durability because they share the same type of energy than Archie super sonic.Brunout said:Except we can apply resistances because every Cosmo user uses the same damn energy.
where did you get the minimum universe AP for dante? he is not even factually universe level, just "possible" so no. shaka is factually universal level with agyo, and dante doesn`t time-stop, he slows it down.Brunout said:Ok, so, he can resist to time manipulation from the ones that is below him.
But Dante is above Shaka in power. He is at least universal, because in DMC2, he is far stronger than Mundus.
Again, I didn't said that Dante woud win the fight, he rarely uses time stop..
make a thread about it. people already talked about why dante doesn`t get the "atleast" universal threatment in the same thread which had dante get upgraded to 3-A. before then he isn`tBrunout said:If he defeated a universal demon while not using half of his power(in base with an jackpot, without devil trigger or majin form which is superior) that doesn't make him at least universal?
No, BoT stops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Dwji-4VVg
What is Skully :c?Victor2 said:lazyness isn`t an option :Skully
you should make it otherwise people won`t accept what you`r saying in threads :Skully