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i knows concepts manipulation >> manipulating causality > reality warping , so ...
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What more powerful capabilities concepts manipulation ?
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Pretty sure reality warping trumps all if we're talking about universal+ scale.
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no , concepts manipulation will degeat reality warping
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Isn't Reality Warping the most powerful ability at Tiers 2 and above?
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and ?Fllflourine said:
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Concept manipulation is strong but it can't stand against reality warping. Creating a universe, destroying and rewriting a universe, altering the rules of the universe, this is all within reality warpings domain. If you can manipulate the concept of death, a reality warper can erase that concept. Suddenly noone can die because that's not a thing anymore. You use concept manipulation to create a sword that has the concept of sharpness and can cut through anything, and then a reality warper unmakes it or turns it into a pool noodle.
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" The user has the capabilities to create and assume control of concepts that aren't of a general mind-scape, in other terms, the insane, illogical and irrational to name a few. These ideas are capable of infinite diversity as there are more things alien than there are that are well known or known at all. The concepts can vary from point to point so examples can include; a irrational form of causality, probabilities that surpass one hundred percent or lower than a absolute zero, go beyond boundaries and infinite or just make them nonexistent, create infinite hierarchy of infinites and omnipotence, etc. In basic terms the user transcends all normal understanding." this is its high level, creating the universe? very easy
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Concept manipulation is a subset of reality warping. Generally someone who has concept manipulation has a specific concept they can manipulate. Being able to manipulate all of the concepts that there are is still less powerful than reality warping, though it starts to get close.Raito Utopia said:
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haha , no
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You have to put in a put more effort than that if you're trying to win an argument.Raito Utopia said:
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unnecessary , you just can't prove reality warping> Concept manipulation
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Pretty sure DarkLK disagreed already. Thread should be closed.
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Conceptual Manipulation is only changing and erasing concepts
Reality Warping is the same thing with MUCH more abilities included
Reality Warping is the same thing with MUCH more abilities included
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Concept > Reality > Causality, from my understanding of it.
Of course, I understand reality warping to mean warping the properties of a reality, understood to mean a universe, multi-verse, etc. Since properties can only be understood via the confines of concepts, I think it makes sense to say that concepts are more intrinsic than whatever x property--speed is a concept understood to mean distance moved over a period of time, and while you could hypothetically alter a universe to have a different maximum speed allowed, it seems harder to completely change the concept of speed as it is expressed in a universe.
I could be wrong, though.
Of course, I understand reality warping to mean warping the properties of a reality, understood to mean a universe, multi-verse, etc. Since properties can only be understood via the confines of concepts, I think it makes sense to say that concepts are more intrinsic than whatever x property--speed is a concept understood to mean distance moved over a period of time, and while you could hypothetically alter a universe to have a different maximum speed allowed, it seems harder to completely change the concept of speed as it is expressed in a universe.
I could be wrong, though.
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Also, don't use different definitions of terms from different sites (Superpower Wikia) and says it appilies here. That's blandly incorrect as we have our own definitions that differ from other sites.
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I mean, ignoring he fact that you made this thread to prove that concept manipulation is greater than the others so the burden is on you to make arguments... The definition of reality warping includes concept manipulation as one of the things it can do.Raito Utopia said:
Reality warping can do everything concept manipulation can do and also things that you can't do with concept manipulation. it doesn't get much more cut and dry than that.
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Is the reality a concept ?Alakabamm said:
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Reality is a concept, but concepts are an aspect of reality, honestly it really depends on who's using the ability, but if you took the two in their purest forms, concepts are an aspect of reality, so reality warping is better since it gives you concept manipulation, and manipulation of basically everything else.
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Not to mention you provide zero evidence other than that definition which isn't from this site.
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