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This. Pretty much from what i've seen, anything Solaris can do, Arecus can do it and probably better/easier.Not Jim Sterling said:I think arceus due to basically transcending pokemon verse space, time, matter, and concepts of speed(ok speed was equalized) while Solaris warping ability is seems like still tied to time itself, and probaly due to arceus has more consistent stats, I think.
There should be (well from my point of view at least). Take Dialga for example. Dialga doesnt just have temporal versions of itself through time, he IS time. BEING one with every timeline there is for being the literal incarnation of time. You can have different versions of yourself throughout time but it doesnt mean your one with the very universe, or existence itself, such as time is.LlamaGod1411 said:"There is a huge overwelming difference between having different versions of yourself throughout the past, present and future simutaneously and you BEING the past, present and future simutaneously."
There is?
And considering timelines, technically don't we all have different versions of ourselves in the Past, the present and the future?
No problem.LlamaGod1411 said:Ah I get you.
Thanks.
That isnt really needed honestly. Arceus created and also spanked Dialga without even trying so there isnt anything to imply Arceus cant just straight up one shot Solaris when, despite Solaris's temporal omnipresence, is meaningless before Arceus and his own omnipresence, as well as omnipresent rangeKazarianFahs said:The thing is dialga even tho bound by time,has endless manipulation of it,solaris even tho having almost as limiteless manipulation of time,arceus just doesn't care about time,space,or anything that we can comprehend,solaris has reality warping powers,but arceus isn't really going to be affected by solaris's reality warping because solaris is using existing concepts like time,to attack his opponents,whereas arceus,was there before time,he doesn't depend on time,but rather,time depends on arceus,arceus can simply delete the concept of time and solaris would technically die since he resides within time.
This. Everything Solaris can do, Arecus can do and do it better.Coleworld12 said:But I'm leaning more towards arceus still he has immunity to everything Solaris can dish out and has some hax to bypass dura and the speed to blitz.....
He isnt. He's only likely between Low 2C and 2B but theres no real feat or way of knowing which is true or what between those 2 levels are trueColeworld12 said:If Solaris is actual 2-B he stomps
So what? Dialga is the exact same thing and is nothing compared to Arceus. Solaris is basically dialga without infinite speed and possibly lower power. Being in Different timelines isnt gonna matter to Arceus one little bit.LTB2000 said:he can exist in different timelines, making it harider for arceus to kill.
Especially not when Arceus created "different timelines".FictionalBlade101 said:So what? Dialga is the exact same thing and is nothing compared to Arceus. Solaris is basically dialga without infinite speed and possibly lower power. Being in Different timelines isnt gonna matter to Arceus one little bit.
Dialga isnt neccesarily weaker than Solaris hes a solid 2C in one of his keys while Solaris's power is pretty much an unknown, can be anywhere from Low 2C to 2BZeldasmash said:Arceus existed before the concept of time. He literally created time and Dialga is basically a slightly weaker Solaris. Solaris uses time, a concept that Arceus gives no ***** considering he existed before it. Reality warpings won't work on Arceus. Basically everything Solaris can do, Arceus can do much more consistantly and better.
Arceus wins.
2-C Arceus is available...Daishinkan 50 said:arceus is now 2b or higher