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Zelda should be Low 2-C: Into the Zeldaverse

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Alright, let's do this one last time. My name is ZephyrosOmega, and I am the one and only Zelda-Man.

I'm not going to waste a lot of time here. Let's do this. 3-A for the Triforce realistically shouldn't be 3-A. If you're going to allow 3-A, you have to accept the many points on Low 2-C that come with it.

I'd like to remind everyone as a bit of a disclaimer that I'm well aware these points wouldn't be able to say, bump Link from 4-B to Low 2-C. That'd be ridiculous. But once more, for 3-A to exist, you can't in good faith say that Low 2-C doesn't. Time to explain why.

Majora Itself
So, this is even literally stated in his profile, but I'll go over it again.

We know from here that Termina is considered to be a parallel universe, and Majora was said to be capable of warping and corrupting all of it.

We also know that this extends to "The Moon, The Heavens, Space and Time" from here.

And... I mean, shouldn't that be it, then? Explicit mentions of space and time from the justifications for them being 3-A in the first place? I'm just saying. Last time it was decided to be wrong because Azathoth had problems with Majora being 3-A in the first place. And then there was a certain someone being overtly hostile and sarcastic and not really putting forward any valid counterarguments, but that's just me. We had agreements from knowledgeable users and even content mods.

Just saying.

The World's Reasons
Yeah, yeah, I know, "Too vague to use" and all that, according to Kep. But again, this is just to prove that the triforce can affect space and time in the first place and that Low 2-C is a possibility that can't be ignored.

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This is a statement from Din herself. It's not even that far off, considering that Nayru, someone obviously equal to Din, has the power to control time itself.

The quote from Hyrule Historia is "Veran, the Sorceress of Shadows, appeared from within Impa, taking control of Nayru's body. In truth, Nayru was the Oracle of Ages, who governed the passage of time in the land of Labrynna", by the way.

Once more, it should be pretty easy to assume that the Triforce can do the same as it should be superior to oracle Nayru.

Other Shit
This is just a bunch of supporting stuff that doesn't matter too much on its own but should be noted anyway.

  • Hylia said the Triforce could alter the essence of all things, which from the statements above, would include space and time.
  • Zelda's always been about time travel and different timelines all the way back to the N64.
  • **** man, think of how many time-manipulating things exist in Zelda, including weapons like the Phantom Sword.
  • Golden Goddesses can create timelines and have Space-Time manipulation on their profiles, and the triforce is a fraction of their power.
  • No, I'm not using "Ganon's laugh transcended space-time lol" here. Even I have my limits.
In Conclusion...
Doing this song and dance again. Once more, with feeling!

Majora and comparable tiers being "At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C" is FAR too consistent and explainable to simply ignore, and can't really be challenged without challenging 3-A as a whole, which was the only thing that happened in the last thread.

At bare minimum, Triforce wielders should receive the upgrade above, even if Majora doesn't. Everyone that would be affected is...

Everyone that would be upgraded is:

 
  • No, I'm not using "Ganon's laugh transcended space-time lol" here. Even I have my limits.
It's not even his laugh transcending space and time, he's laughing while transcending all of space and time idk why everyone jumped to "lol 'it's the laugh". Also further proof that the triforce can affect space-time, Lorule's space-time was slowly collapsing due to the lost of their triforce.
 
Nah, Lorule never showed any space-time collapse, just like

loss of suns and shit

Let's just keep it to the stuff in the OP for now please
 
I'll wait on more input before I decide. But this does make a wee bit of sense.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
Nah, Lorule never showed any space-time collapse, just like
loss of suns and shit

Let's just keep it to the stuff in the OP for now please
Lorule's entire universe was destablizng due to the lost of their triforce but alright.
 
GiverOfThePeace said:
ZephyrosOmega said:
Nah, Lorule never showed any space-time collapse, just like
loss of suns and shit

Let's just keep it to the stuff in the OP for now please
Lorule's entire universe was destablizng due to the lost of their triforce but alright.
This was brought up in the last thread, and I'd really care to not derail for it at the moment. Besides it would just be 3-A and not Low 2-C, which defeats the purpose of the current thread.
 
What was brought up in the last thread was that it was grossily over-time hence why it couldn't be Low 2-C. What I'm saying is that it's supporting evidence that the triforce stablizes space-time. I'm not saying the feat is Low 2-C.
 
Lorule's triforce getting destroyed started destroying Ravios Universe albeit slowly but surely and the Triforce is what keeps Time and Space together shouldn't that also be enough to justify the low 2-C? And at the end of ALBW the Triforce is shown able to fix an other triforce an object capable of restoring time and space shouldn't that be enough too?


But anyway I agree with op Low 2-C seems good enough
 
Let's not derail into that (as much as I'd love to), like I said I just brought it up since it supports the triforce can affect a space-time. Anyways I agree with the thread.
 
Out of curiosity, what sort of relationships do the oracles have to the goddesses? Are they reincarnations like Zelda is to Hylia?
 
The real cal howard said:
They're just oracles, like the one at Delphi.
So them sharing names with the goddesses isn't like, referenced in lore? Like, is there any reason they're stand-ins for the GGs?
 
So uh, question: given the Triforce is mentioned as the source of everything and all that IIRC, wouldn't it be strange if it did not include time?
 
TartaChocholate said:
So uh, question: given the Triforce is mentioned as the source of everything and all that IIRC, wouldn't it be strange if it did not include time?
That's about the plot synopsis, yes.
 
Ganon's laugh feat is just a further support of dark and light world being separate timelines, overlooking this is doing the verse dirty
 
Konaguna said:
Ganon's laugh feat is just a further support of dark and light world being separate timelines, overlooking this is doing the verse dirty
Can't tell if serious
 
I have nothing against Low 2-C Zelda, I heavily support it tbh, just not Majora being 3-A and having that scaled to the triforce
 
Actually, while we're here, Zelda used the triforce at the end of BOTW. Shouldn't she have a 3-A/Low 2-C key?
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
Actually, while we're here, Zelda used the triforce at the end of BOTW. Shouldn't she have a 3-A/Low 2-C key?
That scene was deemed too vague iirc, it's not made clear if she legitimately somehow had the full Triforce or if it was just a representation of her power or something like that.
 
Zelda in BOTW most definitely did not have the Triforce. it's most likely the light force as it's constantly mentioned that it's a power passed on by royal family or sumthn like that
 
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