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Alien X and Chronosapien timebomb

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The line "Please do not attempt to scale Alien X to the Chronosapien Time Bomb. Not only was Atomic X unable to stop it, it would be nonsensical for Ben 10,000 to utilize an alien that is infinitely weaker to stop a multiversal weapon". Why is it there ? Ben 10K never even heard of a time bomb before, Professor paradox never told ben about a time tomb which caught all ben 10 from the multiverse by surprise when they were being killed even the Villian Eo was caught surprised, and ben 10K decided to punch it with Atomic X who was defeated.If Ben 10K knows it was a Multiversal bomb then he would've used Alien x instead of Atomic X ( A Biomnitrix user can transform into regular aliens aswell proof if Fusions were more powerful than why can he still become regular aliens,that's because the answer is because 1-Fusions are very helpful in different situations and 2-This he wants he be creative and have fun) So if regular aliens are still allowed and Ben 10K never even heard of a time bomb before and decided to punch it,So then that line should be removed cause it is spreading misinformation.
 
I'm just confused why we aren't just scaling Alien X off of Paradox who says Alien X is omnipotent blah blah blah. Obviously not omnipotent in the meta sense but the inverse sense that he seems that way to everyone else.

Its not even an outlier considering he has low multiversal feats, lesser aliens scale to the Time Bomb, people who scale to the bomb call him omnipotent (ie stronger), his race makes laws against stuff on this level, nothing states Atomic X to be as strong or stronger, the Time Bomb targets Ben himself and not Atomic/Alien X, word of god says Alien is always out there even when Ben is not using him and thus removing Ben will bypass Atomic/Alien X regardless.

Shall we finally just slap a 2-A on him so we can end the endless stream of Alien X upgrades that everyone including the pro upgrade side are tired of?
 
Atomic-X had mixed genetic genes so that's probably why it was seen as weaker and Ben 10K was caught off guard and didn't even know what the bomb does and didn't use his hax first. Plus it was a bomb specifically kill all Ben 10's in every universe.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
I'm just confused why we aren't just scaling Alien X off of Paradox who says Alien X is omnipotent blah blah blah. Obviously not omnipotent in the meta sense but the inverse sense that he seems that way to everyone else.
Its not even an outlier considering he has low multiversal feats, lesser aliens scale to the Time Bomb, people who scale to the bomb call him omnipotent (ie stronger), his race makes laws against stuff on this level, nothing states Atomic X to be as strong or stronger, the Time Bomb targets Ben himself and not Atomic/Alien X, word of god says Alien is always out there even when Ben is not using him and thus removing Ben will bypass Atomic/Alien X regardless.

Shall we finally just slap a 2-A on him so we can end the endless stream of Alien X upgrades that everyone including the pro upgrade side are tired of?
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Because people agreed in previous debates that the rule is in order for alien x to be multiversal he needs to show it, (if we use statements from Man of Action blog) then alien x can even survive a Omniversal destruction the term Omniverse means a verse which contains infinite multiverses but here on this site this term is not used instead we have Hypverse, so alien x can survive a hyperversal destruction but in order for him to do he neeeds to bond his powers. I also found it funny that Omnitrix and Alien X are both low 2c which would mean they are equal in terms of powers, but rules are rules here and outside the show statements are not allowed. Yes i disagree with alot of things but right now i just want that line to be removed because it's false.
 
I'm surprised that people don't mention Paradox calling Celestialsapiens stronger than him even though his Chrono Navigator can destroy all the timelines.

I also agree that none of the Bens knew that is was a Chronosapien Time Bomb. All Ben 10k saw was a big explosion and tried using Atomic-X to stop it.

Eon: We're partners in this endeavor. I should be in on every detail of your plans, especially if they suddenly involve a bomb.

Vilgax: Not just a bomb a Chronosapien time bomb. [ Bomb ticking ]

Eon: You're going to destroy this Ben 10 and his timeline? Nice.

Vilgax: On the contrary, the detonation won't even touch this Ben Tennyson or his timeline. It's designed to wipe other timelines from existence.

Eon: Which one?

Vilgax: All of them. [ Laughs evilly ] Only this timeline will be left intact, while all others will cease to exist, so every Ben Tennyson not from this timeline will be destroyed.

Eon: But I'm an alternate Ben Tennyson not from this timeline. What what happens to me?

Vilgax: Thank you for your help, Eon. Your assistance is no longer required.

Eon: Aah! [ Farting noise ] [ Squawks ] [ Squawks ] [ Growls ] [ Yowls ]

Mad Ben: What is that? [ Growls ] [ Beep ]

Benzarro: What we do now?

Albedo: Every Ben for himself! [ Grunts ]

Ben 10,000: Atomic X! Aah!
 
Firestorm808 said:
I'm surprised that people don't mention Paradox calling Celestialsapiens stronger than him even though his Chrono Navigator can destroy all the timelines.
I also agree that none of the Bens, including Eon, knew what a Chronosapien Time Bomb was. All Ben 10k saw was a big explosion and tried using Atomic-X to stop it.

Eon: We're partners in this endeavor. I should be in on every detail of your plans, especially if they suddenly involve a bomb.

Vilgax: Not just a bomb a Chronosapien time bomb. [ Bomb ticking ] Eon: You're going to destroy this Ben 10 and his timeline? Nice. Vilgax: On the contrary The detonation won't even touch this Ben Tennyson or his timeline. It's designed to wipe other timelines from existence.

Eon: Which one? Vilgax: All of them. [ Laughs evilly ] Only this timeline will be left intact, while all others will cease to exist, so every Ben Tennyson not from this timeline will be destroyed.

Eon: But I'm an alternate Ben Tennyson not from this timeline. What what happens to me?

Vilgax: Thank you for your help, Eon. Your assistance is no longer required.

Eon: Aah! [ Farting noise ] [ Squawks ] [ Squawks ] [ Growls ] [ Yowls ]

Mad Ben: What is that? [ Growls ] [ Beep ]

Benzarro: What we do now?

Albedo: Every Ben for himself! [ Grunts ]

Ben 10,000: Atomic X! Aah!
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It's simple Celestialsapiens together are above Chrono Navigator why would anyone think that paradox and navigator are higher then them ? Celestialsapiens exists before both of those were created, The only reason paradox was even able to go near Bellicus and Serena in UA is because they mentioned that Celestialsapiens had a treaty with Paradox.Back to the Line topic that line should be removed.
 
I do not remotely have the time, focus, and energy to argue about this again, but you should search for and read any previous discussions regarding the topic, and can ask some administrators to contribute if you wish, along with any staff members listed in the Ben 10 verse page.
 
In fairness, it's laid out in the script that none of the Bens knew about the CT Bomb in the first place.
 
Its kinda like (blank) not knowing about a thing that was built just to kill him and he jumps in and punches the blast but dies because its made to kill him
 
Yeah. "it would be nonsensical for Ben 10,000 to utilize an alien that is infinitely weaker to stop a multiversal weapon" is still an inaccurate statement since Ben 10k didn't know anything about it prior like Eon and the other Bens.
 
Firestorm808 said:
Yeah. "it would be nonsensical for Ben 10,000 to utilize an alien that is infinitely weaker to stop a multiversal weapon" is still an inaccurate statement since Ben 10k didn't know anything about it prior like Eon and the other Bens.
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Very inaccurate statement why is it on Alien X's page place he wasn't even there.
 
One more major issue i have is why is Humungoopsaur High Five A ? he has done nothing nor shown to be so, he couldn't even break through a Gate which plumber tool was able to.Fourmungousaur has never took down a High 5 A opponent ? these scaling are wrong "Should be at least as" is not a proof of anything cause he's never even stated to do so.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Yeah no. How many times do we have to go through this until people stop making these endless Alien X upgrade threads?
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You're saying that Ben 10k knew what was going on?
 
Spinoirr said:
Its kinda like (blank) not knowing about a thing that was built just to kill him and he jumps in and punches the blast but dies because its made to kill him
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Just Saying it logically: Paradox and ben survived the Chronosapien time bomb by hiding in a pocket demension, If Ben 10K or Ben even knows in the first place this is a "Time Bomb" he would've done the same thing as Alien X,hide in a pocket demension then come out and reverse the time.
 
This thread is not an upgrade thread. We are simply correcting one inaccurate sentence in the weakness section.

If you can show us that Ben 10k did know what the explosion was, we would all appreciate seeing it.
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Its not a upgrade theead.
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Literally the first reply to this thread disagrees with what your saying tho Peter. While its not the actual intention, this is slowly regressing into another of those endless upgrade threads that start and end the exact same way every single time.
 
It's funny of how Professor Paradox thinks the Celestialsapiens race are more powerful than him, yet he is 2-A in the site, yet the Celestialsapiens are Low 2-C in this site.
 
I agree with Kukui. These neverending Alien X upgrade threads need to stop. I would appreciate help with writing a discussion rule.
 
However, can somebody summarise what sentence that needs to be changed and why, as well as whether this would open up for upgrading Alien X by scaling from the 2-A time bomb?
 
Changing the sentence about Ben 10k knowing about the CTB in the first place doesn't change the scaling.

None of the Bens knew that is was a Chronosapien Time Bomb. All Ben 10k saw was a big explosion and tried using Atomic-X to stop it.

Eon: We're partners in this endeavor. I should be in on every detail of your plans, especially if they suddenly involve a bomb.

Vilgax: Not just a bomb a Chronosapien time bomb. [ Bomb ticking ]

Eon: You're going to destroy this Ben 10 and his timeline? Nice.

Vilgax: On the contrary, the detonation won't even touch this Ben Tennyson or his timeline. It's designed to wipe other timelines from existence.

Eon: Which one?

Vilgax: All of them. [ Laughs evilly ] Only this timeline will be left intact, while all others will cease to exist, so every Ben Tennyson not from this timeline will be destroyed.

Eon: But I'm an alternate Ben Tennyson not from this timeline. What what happens to me?

Vilgax: Thank you for your help, Eon. Your assistance is no longer required.

Eon: Aah! [ Farting noise ] [ Squawks ] [ Squawks ] [ Growls ] [ Yowls ]

Mad Ben: What is that? [ Growls ] [ Beep ]

Benzarro: What we do now?

Albedo: Every Ben for himself! [ Grunts ]

Ben 10,000: Atomic X! Aah!
 
Okay. I suppose that seems to make sense, but I would prefer more staff input.
 
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