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Gon Freecss VS King Piccolo Saga Son Goku

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Oh my god. This... Oh my god. It's exactly what I was talking about. We just ignore the fact that Nen manipulation is literally Chi manipulation, and that in HxH most of that Hax is ignored by just being able to use Chi, and we're gonna exploit verse mechanics that apply to everyone in a setting and act as if those powers are special.

Ok.

Goku slaps him.
 
That's not how Nen works and you know it. Nen and Chi are literally the same thing. They even call Nen Chi at some point, on top of the fact that Ki even has similar traits to Nen. Goku senses Trunks' lack of bloodlust when he strikes at him, and if I recal correctly, Ki was supposed to be invisible but that shit became irrelevant. These are deliberate misinterpretations of the information given in the profiles to give characters hax advantages they never actually have themselves, and are instead Verse mechanics and laws of physics that apply to specific fictions rather than being actual powers. It be one thing if these were being used where they genuinely apply, where a character who doesn't have Nen/Chi in HxH— as in a non Chi user— would experience all these things, but this is not it fam.
 
Verse Equalization rule doesnt grants you resistances, that was rejected iirc

And when I say "Crush", I mean "Fearhax/Madness hax/Paralysis hax/Death hax gg"

Goku doesnt have resistances, so he gets yeeted
 
Amexim said:
That's not how Nen works and you know it. Nen and Chi are literally the same thing. They even call Nen Chi at some point, on top of the fact that Ki even has similar traits to Nen. Goku senses Trunks' lack of bloodlust when he strikes at him, and if I recal correctly, Ki was supposed to be invisible but that shit became irrelevant.
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crt are over there , man .
 
The way those hax work is due to not having a shroud or "Ten" Aura to protect you. Goku literally glows when he fights. He has the same type of Shroud needed to protect him from these affects, for one. They don't work unless the person doesn't or can't produce an aura of chi to shield themselves. This is wank, and if you knew HxH you would know this. Stop Capping.
 
You know damn well you're using the information wrong. Why don't you defend your stance instead of trying to push me away— oh, wait, you can't. You know you're full of shit.
 
Amexim said:
The way those hax work is due to not having a shroud or "Ten" Aura to protect you. Goku literally glows when he fights. He has the same type of Shroud needed to protect him from these affects, for one. They don't work unless the person doesn't or can't produce an aura of chi to shield themselves. This is wank, and if you knew HxH you would know this. Stop Capping.
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>Wank

>Gets accepted by knowledgeable people about the verse

Kek


And as I said, Verse Equalization rule doesnt give you resistances. Doesnt matter if Goku has aura. Period

You disagree? Make a CRT.
 
Amexim said:
You know that you're using these character's powers wrong. That's the issue.
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make your case in a CRT then and got it accepted .

i'm ignoring you until then from now on .
 
Why should I make a CRT to change people's behaviors rather than change a ruling? You're not using the Verse Equalization rule, you're just blatantly ignoring how the verses work. This is like saying that Killua and Gon can hax each other to death using these same hax, despite that not working at all in verse. Do you even know HxH? You do understand that these Hax only apply against people who can't use Nen/Chi in HxH right? Because they shield themselves from these effects using Chi/Aura shrouds, to protect themselves from the energy of others that transmit these emotions through their energy. If you have an Energy Shroud/Chi Manipulation, especially the same kind of Chi Manipulation, you don't deal with these effects. Even the pages labeling them as resistances don't necessarily negate them being able to be affected by fear or madness manipulation depending on the context because their powers work a specific way. You're deliberately ignoring how the powers work.
 
Amexim said:
Why should I make a CRT to change people's behaviors rather than change a ruling? You're not using the Verse Equalization rule, you're just blatantly ignoring how the verses work. This is like saying that Killua and Gon can hax each other to death using these same hax, despite that not working at all in verse. Do you even know HxH? You do understand that these Hax only apply against people who can't use Nen/Chi in HxH right? Because they shield themselves from these effects using Chi/Aura shrouds, to protect themselves from the energy of others that transmit these emotions through their energy. If you have an Energy Shroud/Chi Manipulation, especially the same kind of Chi Manipulation, you don't deal with these effects. Even the pages labeling them as resistances don't necessarily negate them being able to be affected by fear or madness manipulation depending on the context because their powers work a specific way. You're deliberately ignoring how the powers work.
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one word : RESISTANCES
 
>Why should I make a CRT

Because thats how the site works

>Killua and Gon can hax each other

They cant. Both have resistances

>Nen Crush doesnt work on people that has Ne

Every nen user have resistances. Also Laughs in Pitou who can bypass Nen resistances with sheer presence of her E
 
King Piccolo Saga Goku use ki aura all the time? IIRC kid goku tends lo lead his guard down and is impresed by new techniques. And with his guard down he can result injured by a simple rock or a laser to the chest (and that´s a stronger versions of himself)
 
Demon Takumo 31 said:
King Piccolo Saga Goku use ki aura all the time? IIRC kid goku tends lo lead his guard down and is impresed by new techniques. And with his guard down he can result injured by a simple rock or a laser to the chest (and that´s a stronger versions of himself)
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That was asuming what the other guy says
 
EmperorDoom25 said:
>Why should I make a CRT
Because thats how the site works

>Killua and Gon can hax each other

They cant. Both have resistances

>Nen Crush doesnt work on people that has Ne

Every nen user have resistances. Also Laughs in Pitou who can bypass Nen resistances with sheer presence of her En </div>
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Laugh in pouf who can break the minds of people with resistances from just seeing his En
 
One, I made the stupid call out post already.

2. That's not something Gon has demonstrated himself.

3. Worse, that only exists because of the gap in power between the humans and the Chimera Ants, not because of some hax ability. The same rules applied to those powers in those circumstances, it's an AP gap that made it possible. It's the same thing that would happen if they didn't have Nen at all, that's just how strong they were in comparison. If you do a bit of close reading, and tried not to let your biases dictate how you interpret shit, you'd see that. Instead, you just look for any opportunity to squeeze in your headcanon and exploit it, knowing damn well that Hisoka and Wing's IN VERSE explanation for why the fear manipulation that happened when Hisoka was outside in the Hallway and Zushi scared Killua, was literally that they didn't have Nen to defend against it. It doesn't take anything for you to understand that Knodov or whoever that dude with the glasses and teleportation was— he was terrified because of the sheer distance in power, much like the others. Notice how Kite wasn't affected the same way that Gon and Killua were. Power difference. Notice how Gon directing his killing intent towards Morel scared the shit out of him. Because Nen is a medium that transfers emotions. You can sense that type of shit through your Enemies Nen. Goddamn it.
 
... You.. Literally missed the point. The reason why it worked on Killua back then was because Killua didn't have Ten Aura around him. Wing explains this directly when they meet Hisoka in the tower. Whereas with Pitou and the rest of the Chirmera ant comanders, there was a huge gap between Killua and Gon and then, which made the fear and bloodlust thing happen. Because they were way more powerful and dangerous, and their bloodlust was caked in their Aura/Chi.
 
I'll explain it again.

Beings who do not have the Nen aura or a Chi aura or an energy Shroud of some sort are vulnerable to this Hax. Beings who are super weak in comparison to those with that aura are likely succeptable that hax. The reason why the hax worked on Killua, is because Killua didn't have Ten to protect him from Zushi's REN. Same with Hisoka. And after they learned Ten, this didn't affect them anymore. They could stand in his presence whilst he used Nen and not be harmed by those affects due to the Shroud. Whilst against Pitou, the gap in power made this Shroud useless. And Netero wasn't even afraid of the King, **** Pitou. I think Pitou was afraid of him if I recal correctly.
 
Netero was afraid of the King though. When Meruem gave a show of extremely mild Ren, Netero doubled the distance between them just from feeling it.

Pitou was not afraid of Netero, unless you're referring to her being afraid of Meruem, in which case she is. Pitou was super excited to fight Netero.

Anyways, Gon makes Goku shit himself FRA
 
It was because of Illumi's needle

No it wasn't? Illumi's needle only activates if Killua faces an opponent he's not sure he can beat. If it was Illumi's needle at work, then Killua would've been paralyzed on the spot because that's how it works. Killua didn't know Ten at the time and thus was subjected to the full force of Ren.
 
First we have Reiatsu Crush from Bleach, and now we have Nen Crush from Hunter x Hunter? Anyways for those of you people who are saying verse equalization doesn't grant resistances is the worst logic to go by in 2019.

Nen (Õ┐ÁÒâìÒâ│ or ÒâìÒâ│, Ne—lit. "Sense";[1]* "Mind Force" in the Viz transl.)[2] is one of the defining features of the manga Hunter ├ù Hunter by Yoshihiro Togashi. It is a technique that allows a living being to use and manipulate their own life energy (known as aura).[3]

Ki (µ░ù "Ki", lit. "Spirit"), also known as chi/qi, Yōki (Õªûµ░ù)[1] or simply energy (Òé¿ÒâìÒâ½Òé«Òâ╝ 'enerug─½''), is the life force energy' used by Dragon Ball characters.

So from what we know from both of their perspectives wikipedias, their source of energy are both life energy. So what's the difference between one user getting resistances and the other user doesn't, when they are both using life energy?
 
We dont qualize energy like that. Otherwise, Goku would have Fear Manip and Madness Manip

Energy Equalization only exists to make enegy interact with each other, NOT to grant resistances

That said, Gon haxstomps
 
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