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Niko vs. Frisk

Jinsye

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Did it with the computers, now gotta do it with the MCs. Protagonists of 4th Wall RPGs that aren't as they seem kill eachother.

Speed is =

Frisk w/ Max DETERMINATION (with 2-C dura) vs. Niko fused with the Entity

Who wins?

Niko (Oneshot): 0

Frisk: 0

Frisk Mercy
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this match is really thematic and i no want death
 
Incon. Frisk just saves and loads whenever Niko defeats them or Frisk eventually befriends them(would that count as a win for Frisk?)
 
Would Niko's conceptual manipulation bypass Save and Load?
 
Doubt it, I think SAVE and LOAD just doens't care, lol. As Yellowpig says, "Isn't that basically mid godly?".
 
Well, yeah.

But conceptual erasure is (often) enough to bypass mid-godly. The reason it's basically mid-godly is because it means Frisk can revive even if you destroy his soul. But Save and Load has never revived him from anything at that extent. So, does Niko have conceptual erasure? That's basically what I'm asking. Or is it a different kind of manipulation?
 
Niko should be able to get around Save and Load due to how Conceptual Manipulation would bypass which frisk shouldn't even have. Niko also has stuff like Information Manipulation, thus I vote her
 
We talking bout niko with the players help since the player controlled niko. Cause if so. Easily deletes the save. That's even part of how you have to beat One Shot. Vote for niko in that case
 
It's a possibility. It's just. Deleting frisk is far faster. And Frisk doesn't have as much of ground to work with as they did with Asriel. So they won't last nearly as long
 
Buttersamuri said:
It's a possibility. It's just. Deleting frisk is far faster. And Frisk doesn't have as much of ground to work with as they did with Asriel. So they won't last nearly as long
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Niko wants to win. Why would they bother to listen to a kid when they can just erase whenever?

And that's without the fact that talking a nigh-omniscient that can erase you whenever is impossible. There is no combination of words Frisk could say to win.
 
Niko doesn't seem like they would open with erasing. Just a thing they would resort to faster than Frisk could pacify them.

Why would they listen? Cause no doubt frisk is skilled in pacifying. They pacifyed the monsters who wanted Frisks soul to save their kind. Yet Frisk stopped them from trying to take their soul. It's not unreal frisk could pacify niko. I just don't see it happening fast enough before EE
 
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