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Courage is fully equipped and Pac has his power ups

Courage has an hour of prep

speed is =

Courage: 7

Pac-Man: 1

inconclusive: 0

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all but four stats are even the four that arent even are : lifting strength, stamina, intelligence, and speed (but speed is equal so thats kinda null and void.) and in these stats courage holds an advantage so i think he should win.
 
Wait, so the reasoning for Courage is.... Greater Lifting Strength, Stamina, & Intelligence? What's his opening move? How likely is he actually to use his Lifting Strength as a win condition?

Also, Lifting Strength might not help that much; Choking Pac-Man might be survived due to Mid Level Regenerationn, & throwing Pac into space won't work because he can fly in space with his surfboard, and can survive there besides.

Also, Pac-Man has Precognition, with all his equipment could Stat reduce Courage with a Power Pellet and eat him, Transmute him into Cherries, BFR with a Pink Capsule, or if they get weak enough, using his Golden Pac-Man abilities.

He also has:

Duplication with Pac-Men powerup (Can create homing Pac-Men that can create other Pac-Men)

Intangibility and Invisibility with Stealth powerup

Sound Wave Reflection with Radar power-up (Which might counter the beneficial effects of Courage's screams.)

Ice Manipulation with Freeze and Shatter powerups (Can freeze enemies to a nigh-halt on a universal scale. Shatter also summons stalagmites)

Sound Manipulation and Fear Manipulation with Sonar powerup (Creates a sound wave to scare off enemies) (We know Courage is especially cowardly.)


So yeah. I doubt Courage's opening move is his Yo-Yo, I'm not sure if Lifting Strength can actually win here due to Pac's abilities, Pac-Man has multiple instant win conditions (Sealing, BFR, Transmutation, etc.), & while Courage is smart, I doubt he has the time in speed equalized mid-combat to craft something.

Not to mention, if he DOES find the time, and lays out a labyrinth of traps, Pac-Man's Intelligence....

Intelligence: Above Average (Skilled at navigating mazes, outwitting opponents and solving puzzles)

It's kind of well-suited.


If we're gonna FRA Courage, I think better reasoning as to HOW he wins is needed. Also, voting Pac-Man.
 
how does pacs transmutation work again? im a bit sure courage's shapeshifting can counter it (not saying pac cant win but ya know......)
 
Transmutation with Cherries powerup (Automatically turns enemies into cherries)

That's what I know from his profile.

What has Courage turned into, and from what? If he doesn't have any ability to act as a pair of cherries, being able to Shapeshift might not help him.

I know he does have Transformation (Can turn into a Kangaroo Monster, which greatly increases his size)

(Also, there's the other win conditions of Pac-Man's yeah.)
 
courage has turned himself into lifeless objects before, including rocks, a blimp and even a cloud so he should be able to come back from being turned into a cherry
 
I'm not sure voluntarily shapeshifting into a form you can still act from is the same as being involuntarily transmuted by an opponent's ability. What has he done in those forms, & did he exhibit the properties of those objects?

In any case, Precognition, Sealing, BFR, Intangibility, Duplication, and Fear Manipulation....
 
well he did shoot out thunder as a cloud

i guess maybe if i make courage bloodlusted (aka muriel-lusted) and give him a day of prep thatll switch things up a bit?

btw is grace still a thing or did it "restart" since you voted for pac? im still kinda new to how things work here
 
I'm not entirely sure. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Versus_Thread_Rules

  • When the thread reaches a valid vote count, a grace period of 24 will be acknowledged, starting when the final vote that resulted in valid vote count was posted. After this time period the match can be added, with proper format, to the respective characters' pages, or, for Tier 2 characters or otherwise locked profiles, requested in the Versus Addition Request Thread.
There is also total of 7 votes with a difference of 3 or more in favor of Courage.

However, all of Courage's votes are based on him having higher Lifting Strength, Stamina and Intelligence, which as I pointed out, aren't that strong a case, AFAIK, since:

  • Pac-Man has means of countering or surviving LS based wincons, even if Courage does resort to them earleir.
  • Stamina might not be relevant due to the multiple means of winning.
  • Intelligence may not be useful without much time to craft or set-up, plus, a gauntlet of traps might just be something Pac deals with on a daily basis.


So I'm not sure all the "Courage For the Reasons Above of those better stats" have a strong premise, but I dunno if the votes are still valid or not.
 
Epsilon R said:
It restart when there's no longer a 3+ votes gap
I have no problem with that (I do wish I'd found this thread earlier, though.) but I can't find where it says that. That or I'm misinterpreting stuff.
 
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