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Galactus vs Abel (SMT)

Abel win via fate manipulation, conceptual manipulation, causality manipulation, etc.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
I know UN at peak power is High 1-B but has Galactus used it to that potency?
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The UN is part of Galactus, thus he would logically be able to use it at it's fullest potential
 
Actually, Galctus used the UN to fix multiversal Eternity iirc

Also, Galactus has no reason to erase Eternity and that would just cause the Living Tribunal to smite him
 
Even though "its part of his being" he's actually scared of it and it's one reason why he ran away from Earth when Reed pulled it out. Also he's hardly used it like ever. Even if he did on that one occassion. Never even in serious battles. Would've been handy if he just erased the IG don't you think?
 
Overlord775 said:
Also, Galactus has no reason to erase Eternity and that would just cause the Living Tribunal to smite him
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Point is if he did use it full potential it would erase not only himself but Eternity too. And that's only happened on one occassion. Pretty sure it was Reed who basically reset everything not Galactus.
 
@Emperor

The UN being part of Galactus was only established in later stories, so Reed threatening was likely retconned

also the IG should just be High 1-B tbh

and Galactus should be >>> Reed in using the UN
 
Clearly it isn't High 1-B if it gets nullified by a TLT M-Body. TLT M-Body is made up and superior to the other M-Body abstracts.

Still he doesn't use it. Although he can call it and has it on his ship. There are many instances where he could use it and didn't so it's extremely out of character. Again he still hasn't used it to it's fullest potential and in the instance that someone did it erased and reset everything including themselves.
 
The efficiency of the Ultimate Nullifier depends on the mental capacity of the user. Since Reed Richards was able to do the High 1-B feats, it would make sense for Galactus to do the same.
 
He has conceptual manipulation and is a demon himself. Demons are abstract. So he can affect AEs.

If UN is used to that degree it ends up inconclusive because Galactus erases himself, Abel and all layers of existence. Also to be clear I'm not saying he can't I'm saying he never has so why would he?

Galactus won't use it in combat because he never does and Abel has a bunch of abilities to incap or destroy.
 
That's because Galactus rarely has to fight with people on his level. If his regular attacks do nothing, he will just summon the UN.
 
That's idiotic logic. In all his fights and he's had various. He never uses it. He'd use his matter or mind hax then fail and get haxed. Abel isn't going to stand ans let him try his shit out. Again even if he does to a High 1-B level it'd be incon. Normally it's used at a Low 2-C level
 
Reed Richards accomplished the High 1-B feats. Reed has stated multiple times that he can barely even grasp Galactus's technology. Galactus clearly has the better mind, and thus should be able to use it to that degree.
 
No it isn't. Reed used it at full potential and it erased everything. It isn't used that way normally.

He never uses UN. Like literally never.
 
Then the UN shound't even be brought up on this match. And even if he were to use it, Abel would hax him to death first.
 
I vote Abel via being capable of haxing Galactus first, before he uses something like UN (which he doesn't use).
 
If Abel attacks Galactus he will get erased from nonexistence, while also inducing him multiple status effects like getting petrified.
 
I vote for Abel, if Galactus touches him, he gets hit with a bunch of status effects that probably doesn't resist and if Abel lands a hit, Galactus gets erased.
 
"Win-cons"? The hell are those?

And how frequently Galactus uses the UN is irrelevant, as it's as much a part of him as his own heart.
 
"Win-con" is just short for win condition, sorry if I confused you. But still, how frequently Galactus has used the UN does matter, as it decides whether or not he'd actually use it in character. Just because it's part of his normal equipment doesn't mean that he'll spam it.
 
BTW, just to remind everyone, Galactus scales to Infinite^Infinite 2-A, so all his blows disintigrate Able
 
Doesn't use a win condition as much doesn't mean no win condition. He has a win condition. Just not likely to use it. So how frequently it's used does matter a lot. A Go To attack vs A One Time use attack are very different and can easily change a win to a loss or a loss to a win. If he doesn't use it a lot in canon. We can't assume he would use it a lot here. Able FRA
 
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