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Metal Sonic vs Mega Man

Metal Sonic AP : 617.5 zettatons.

Mega Man AP: 666 zettatons

Metal Sonic Is above that and megaman is--> Sunstar who is---> Willy´s satellite lasers

So the Ap Is almost the same

Mega Man has more hax on his own,double gear lets him outspeed Metal sonic except when metal is using Maximum Overdrive

I really thinks that Mega man would end the fight fast enought to not let use metal sonic use chaos control,his intangiblity is temporal
 
Speed is equal tho, and copy ability removes Mega Man's versality, since he can just copy the abilities that give Mega the haxes

You are voting for Mega right?
 
Oh, I forgot to add that Metal has power ups as well, which would include speed shoes, which increase his speed
 
Most of Mega Man's votes are for speed and hax, but Metal can copy Mega's hax and has his own power ups to boost his speed
 
The Smashor said:
Don't forget that this Mega Man (The Manga Mega Man) has way less hax then his game counterpart.
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His page does not say that

" Most of Mega Man's votes are for speed and hax, but Metal can copy Mega's hax and has his own power ups to boost his speed "

I already said that Metal Sonic would be faster using his speed amp and Metal Sonic can not copy everything Mega man has in seconds,it would need time and Mega Man would be already using his most powerfull weapons
 
Metal has other speed amps outside of Maximum Overdrive, which you didn't adress, plus copying ability is fast and nothing indicates that Mega would beat him that fast nor would use his best hax at first in character as well
 
Theuser789 said:
Metal has other speed amps outside of Maximum Overdrive, which you didn't adress, plus copying ability is fast and nothing indicates that Mega would beat him that fast nor would use his best hax at first in character as well
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You added his speed shoes later And Metal Sonic can copy everything from Mega Man in seconds but can only copy 1 thing from Knuckles,seems logic

And Mega Man would not use his hax while Metal Sonic would use it at the moment instead of using chaos control,espio invisibility,Silver ESP ect

Mega man has experience against enemies who relies on copying his powers btw
 
I actually had forgotten to do that, but that's standard equipment.

Base Metal copys special attacks, most of Megaman's hax is the special ability of a robot master, plus he definitively starts with that

I ain't arguing that Metal will win because I am the Op of the match, only that the original reasons weren't that good, Megaman having experience with people that copy his abilities is a good reason for example
 
Theuser789 said:
nothing indicates that Mega would beat him that fast nor would use his best hax at first in character as well
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I can be wrong in what I will say,but Mega Man accepted mindset in this wiki is him always using mega buster at the beginning,then start using powers to find enemy´s weaknesses

With Mega Man 11,he adds double gear to dodge everything

I don´t know very good Metal Sonic mind set,but he is Sonic´s copy,he should start with spin dashes and spin attacks while copying his enemy
 
Metal usually uses the ability he copied before plus ramming into opponents and using eletrical attacks and V.Maximun Overdrive, he actualy doesn't use spin dashs much in his fights

Does Manga Megaman actually have the double gear system? Did they adapt the game?
 
Theuser789 said:
Metal usually uses the ability he copied before plus ramming into opponents and using eletrical attacks and V.Maximun Overdrive, he actualy doesn't use spin dashs much in his fights
Does Manga Megaman actually have the double gear system? Did they adapt the game?
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https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Rockman_11:_Unmei_no_Haguruma!!_(manga)

But I don´t think is canon,I don´t know too much about what is canon to manga Mega man

Should I call an expert like Brucethebatman?
 
This is Manga Mega Man so no, he doesn't have the Double Gear System. However, while we're on this point, I do think that there needs to be another tab or something for Manga Mega Man's abilities specifically because the profile suggests both Canon and Manga share the same exact abilities and powers when they don't. Hell, they're even different in terms of speed and maybe even intelligence, but that's for another time.

Mega Man may begin with his Mega Buster, but noticing Metal's weaponry and tactics, he'll definitely capitalize and adapt to his fighting style (similar to Canon Mega Man I guess). For example, Manga Mega Man knew he was nowhere near as fast as Quick Man and before they clashed atop one of Wily's exploding satellites, he stopped time before he could get hit and fled from the scene which led to Quick Man taking the explosion of the satellite head on and the world being saved. Even earlier when he was a novice and just became a combat robot, Mega Man used Thunder Beam against Ice Man because he knew he had small components built within his systems, meaning any large amount of electricity taken in would short-circuit and destroy him from the inside. So that's how Mega Man typically enters a battle and eventually wins out in the end, adaptation and capitalizing on his opponents advantages by countering them with his own abilities.

Also as a side note, Manga Mega Man's pretty familiar with his weapons and what they do (considering he's fought against or with the Robot Masters wielding them several times), so if Metal copies his weaponry, he'll just counter them with some of his own (e.g. countering explosive weapons with fire weapons or countering fire weapons with ice/water based attacks, etc).
 
This reminds me the votes are probaly invalid because of Ap changes of Metal, since he is now 1.67 Yottatons and has moves like the LSD who double his Ap

Also Metal has more abilities then a regular robot master, plus he can copy Mega's hax as well
 
Metal has more abilities than a Robot Master? I mean individuallly, obviously since he is a main antagonist. But if you mean he has abilities that are different than a typical Robot Master then I beg to differ. Forcefields, electricity, homing attacks, etc? Mega Man's been there and done that. The vast majority of Metal Sonic's arsenal, Mega Man has dealt with before in many shapes and sizes over the past 20 games. Also yes, that's the point I was getting at. Metal can copy Mega Man's weapons but what good would that do when Mega Man knows exactly what they're capable of and what weapons can counter them? Mega Man's fought opponents who copied his weaponry plenty of times before.

Metal's only 5-A with one attack and it's just one grand Homing Attack. Mega Man can just easily counter with a time stop once he sees Metal charging up a devastating attack.
 
X Squared said:
Metal's only 5-A with one attack and it's just one grand Homing Attack. Mega Man can just easily counter with a time stop once he sees Metal charging up a devastating attack.
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Metal can stop time too tho, and doesn't even need to copy Mega Man to do so. So you could argue Metal could stop time and kill Mega Man with a lightspeed attack.
 
X Squared said:
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Yeah I meant individualy, so the fact that Mega counterattacked a robot master doesn't mean he can do the same to a enemy with way more abilities, plus Metal has invulnerability via boost and invisibility monitor, plus because of the Ap advantage Mega has to react and make a strategy pretty fast because of Metal's Ao advantage

My main point is that Metal already has his own abilities plus Mega Man

Regular Metal attacks already are above 1.67 Yottatons, that's why the votes are invalid, they were made before the Ao changes for Metal

I ain't arguing much because I am the Op, but your points are good
 
Yes, I completely agree that Metal Sonic is definitely more versatile and skilled than any Robot Master, but what I'm trying to say is that the abilities he brings to the table aren't new at all.

Mega Man has fought over a hundred Robot Masters (Normal ones and others like the Stardroids and Mega Man Killers) who've exhibited most of Metal's abilities. Elemental weapons, forcefields, energy blasts, invulnerability, invisibility, you name it and Mega Man has gone up against it already and likely counters most of Metal's arsenal with his own. It's no better if Metal copies Mega Man's weapons either, since he knows his weaponry inside and out and has gone against them numerous times from copycats or revived Robot Masters. Mega Man has successfully beaten others with more abilities than a typical Robot Master like Bass and Proto Man so this isn't different.

Also, what's this about the AP? If that's the case then this discussion shouldn't even keep going if Base Metal is 5-A compared to 5-B Manga Mega Man or Canon Mega Man could be used here instead to make this fight more fair.
 
Each Robot Master Rock has faced had a specific weakness he was able to exploit (that being miraculously the other Robot Masters' Special Weapons). This wouldn't apply to Metal Sonic, and just saying "he's dealt with that before" is vague.

Metal Sonic wins via AP and Power Mimicry.
 
@Maverick

I'm not talking about how Mega Man defeated the Robot Masters, I'm talking about the fact that he went up against their various special weapons over the years again and again and gained experience. However, bringing up the weakness chains actually supports what I'm trying to say as Mega Man used that method of finding a weakness to counter a Robot Master's special weapon and defeat them. How many fire manipulators have there been? How many ice? How many shielded? How many time manipulators? Mega Man's dealt with these kinds of Robot Masters several times over and seeing Metal with these abilities isn't gonna catch him off guard and he'll just counter Metal's arsenal with his own (water against fire attacks, electric against water attacks, etc) as he's done in the past before with the weakness chains.

Also, vague how so? I didn't just say he's dealt with them and called it a day. I gave examples of what abilities Metal and past Robot Masters share in common and the fact Mega Man can use his own vast arsenal to counter them as he's done before in the past even with weaknesses involved. It's just all common sense that Mega Man would extinguish a fire move with water and or time stop whenever a foe becomes too fast because he's drawing from his own years of experience coupled with his intelligence in combat situations which I've already explained above. This applies to if Metal copied Rock's special weapons. For example, Metal uses Black Hole Bomb? Mega Man would just use Concrete Shot to seal it up like when he did against Galaxy Man in their battle and so on.
 
Neato. Could've just said "Mega Man is very resourceful and uses the efficient Special Weapon for any given situation". I don't need novels thrown at me every reply lmao

Metal Sonic = 1.4 Yottatons (Almost 5-A, and he can augment his AP from there)

Rock = 666 zettatons

Does Mega Man have a way to overcome the gap?
 
@Maverick

Oh... well that works too lol. Just wanted to over elaborate I guess so there's no confusion or further questions.

But no, since this is Manga, Mega Man doesn't have Double Gear or anything really to overcome the gap.
 
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