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Scion (Worm) vs Veldora Tempest

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I believe it becomes especially hard to see that, with Veldora having a resistance to Acasuality Type 4 & Resistance to Precog.

Veldora starts with Info Analysis + H2H mostly, so he'll likely be aware of what he's trying to do. Is Path to Victory passive?
 
Then I vote Veldora for resisting everything on his profile, and a Resistance to Precog + Acasuality. Plus, he has no way of hitting anyone intangible, or can he put down Veldora since he lacks Soul Manipulation.
 
The Warrior Entity has all the powers in Worms, which includes bootleg Mystic Eyes of Death Perception

BTW Immortality (Types 3 and 9; his true self exists in multiple universes)
 
It can kill him on a conceptual level?

Well, Veldora can't kill him, but I think he can incapacitate him with Fear Manipulation, or seal him off with Fertile Paradox. If not those, incon.
 
Demon Lord's Haki is safer. For that, I vote Veldora. He should also have a resistance to conceptual manipulation, but that's currently in a CRT I'll finish later.
 
If it runs amok, don't think that scales to it's normal capabilities.

If your talking about eating demons, they aren't concepts, they just receive power from concepts.

Anyway this is derailing this match so i will just stop there.
 
GLHF22 said:
Can Scion bypass Veldora type 8?
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How does it work? And better question: How does Veldora get past Scion's Type 9?

"he can incapacitate him with Fear Manipulation, or seal him off with Fertile Paradox. If not those, incon"

Scion resists being mastered by mindforkery on the level of The Simurgh, so Fearhax isn't going to work.

Sealing doesn't work via Scion existing and being capable of travelling through different realities.

How does Veldora deal with Stilling stripping her of her powers, if they're equalized to Shards/Worm powers?

Overlord775 said:
BTW Scion has all these powers but on a vastly higher degree
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Those are from a fan-made RP, not canon to Worm.
Although Scion likely has all those powers barring some that break in-verse rules like Perpetuance through sheer number of shards he possesses as the Warrior-Entity.
 
Veldora's core exists within Rimuru, and he exists within the Imaginary Space, disconnected from reality. So it's really just a clone of Veldora fighting while the real Veldora exists in Rimuru.

Veldora's passive fear/madness hax works on a scale 150,000 people, so it's more than just fear. It also works on those who have a resistance to it, since Veldora's fear/madness hax should only be second to Rimuru's. Veldora deals with his powers being stripped via an Unconventional Resistance, since his powers exist within his core, within his soul, and that's in Rimuru.

Veldora will already see all of this coming with Info Analysis + Precog. If Veldora does get overwhelmed, he can decrease the probability of him getting hit by 50%, or increase the chance of hitting by 50%.
 
Scion exists in all of the infinite parallel realities and bypassed someone who had a similar ability in his vastly inferior avatar form. And can just travel into the imaginary space through his own abilities.

Yeah no. Simurgh mindhaxes entire cities with millions of inhabitants; 150k is par for the course. Even better, it doesn't just induce fear, it breaks apart the minds, mindcontrolls, induces a greater range of emotions. Scion did this in his vastly inferior avatar form; and this is him with all the shards, including the shards that gave mindhax to people with better feats.

How good? Scion's Path to Victory goes years into the future and bypasses blindspots. Scion is also >>> Simurgh and various other precogs who trounce the abilities of other precogs.

Scion has powers that let him both manipulate probabilities to an even better degree, and also choose realities where whatever he does lands. So if it's a 50% chance, Scion just picks the reality where it succeeds.
 
As I said, the Imaginary Space is outside of reality.

Veldora possesses Acasuality Type 4, and a resistance to Precog that's at least High 4-C. It's because of this Acasuality it'll be exceptionally hard to find that reality where Veldora is likely to be hit.

Veldora also has other ways of attacking like his Black Flames, that reach millions of degrees, his Wing Blades which attack on a molecular level with air manipulation, or Black Lightning.

Can Scion also deal with Veldora's passive intangibility, and barrier?
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Scion has that range?
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Scion has 2-A range with his teleportation.

Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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Veldora possesses Acasuality Type 4, and a resistance to Precog that's at least High 4-C. It's because of this Acasuality it'll be exceptionally hard to find that reality where Veldora is likely to be hit.

Veldora also has other ways of attacking like his Black Flames, that reach millions of degrees, his Wing Blades which attack on a molecular level with air manipulation, or Black Lightning.

Can Scion also deal with Veldora's passive intangibility, and barrier?
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>Precog that's at least High 4-C

Precog doesn't work like that. How does the Acausality work? Path to Victory still works indirectly.

Scion unironically resists temperatures as hot as the core of a star. Also resists molecular weapons better than the Endbringers.

Yeah. Sting bypasses barriers and Scion powernulls intangibles and better barriers with Stilling.
 
"Scion unironically resists temperatures as hot as the core of a star."

Resisting this thing is nothing by slime isekai standard , because even the likes of [Hell Flare] A dome five meters in diameter which burns the target to nothingness with temperatures of several hundred million degrees (obviously it's way hotter than the sun)
 
Sheska444 said:
Resisting this thing is nothing by slime isekai standard , because even the likes of [Hell Flare] A dome five meters in diameter which burns the target to nothingness with temperatures of several hundred million degrees (obviously it's way hotter than the sun)
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Compared to trillions of degrees caused by Supernovae, which Scion uses to simply communicate?

Doesn't do anything to Scion, or is just nulled before it even activates.

Scion travels to Imaginary Space, then uses Stilling combined with every instance of powernull in Worm to null before using any of the busted offensive powers in Worm to wipe them off the face of the multiverse.
 
To kill Veldora you have to Destroy His core and His core is within Rimuru body, unless your attack can transcends time and space you have to kill 2B Rimuru to perma kill Veldora

Also fertile paradox is not sealing, its blessing, he bless you with His power and then drain your energy and make that energy as the food for planet, basically you became a core within planet
 
GLHF22 said:
To kill Veldora you have to Destroy His core and His core is within Rimuru body, unless your attack can transcends time and space you have to kill 2B Rimuru to perma kill Veldora
Also fertile paradox is not sealing, its blessing, he bless you with His power and then drain your energy and make that energy as the food for planet, basically you became a core within planet
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Scion doesn't really have to kill Rimuru, though. He just needs to access and attack Veldora's core in Imaginary Space, which he's entirely capable of accessing. Transcending time and space is relatively simple since he has powers that can break both in various ways.

Nulled by Stilling.
 
Veldora's Acasuality is Type 4, and allowed him to break free of a 2-C timeloop. His resistance to precognition itself I guess is pretty standard.

Wing Blade does attack molecularly, but it's also air manipulation too, which he seems to have no resistance to. He also still has his lightning.

Veldora resists power null from people like Dagruel, who was able to nullify Causality Manipulation quite casually once he was fused.
 
I don't see Space-time manip in His profile, but if his attack can transcends Space-time continuum sure he can attack Veldora core, because Veldora's memory is transcends time and space, you have to go beyond time and space to kill him, also you know Imaginary space is Rimuru's stomach so good luck to not get absorbeb by him,

So the safest way to kill Veldora is by snip him from outside Imaginary space and thats why you need an attack that transcends time and space
 
If Scion has every power in Worm, then he also has Nonexistence Physiology. I'm also fairly certain he can just send a new Scion who has resistence to any power Veldora throws at him thanks to reactive evolution.
 
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