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Shulk vs Vampire Hunter D
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What does D start out with? Anything in particular that either side can use?
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D starts out with a slice that negs Durability.
As for Shulk i'm not sure how he opens up. His precog gets negged for sure however
As for Shulk i'm not sure how he opens up. His precog gets negged for sure however
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Really? How so?
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D exists outside the Akashic Records, which contains all Time-Space, past present and future. He has Acausality listed on his profile due to this, so Precog would not work against him
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Interesting. Shulk's Precog worked on Zanza who not only could not use his own precog on Shulk but his own Acausality also has a direct resistance to how Shulk's own Precog works yet Shulk could still do it.
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Biggest issue with this fight for me is how will Shulk get past D's Mid-Godly regen? Not sure if Monado Purge can fully negate it.
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Well while Shulk and Zanza have Acausality on a Universal scale, D has it on a Multiversal scale, seeing as the Akashic Records apply to the multiverse in VHD. So i'd say his Acausality would still beat out Shulk's precognition
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Shulk's precogniton definitely isn't working here, D has type 4 as opposed to type 2, which is what Zanza had.
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But what's D's durability without the aura? Shulk can easily get rid of D's aura, which seems to be the source of his Universe+ durability, so does he have any feats supporting his durability? There is a point in XBC1 where Shulk's precogniton is nullified by a the Apocrypha Generator, but he definitely isn't completely useless without precog. He still has access to extrasensory perception which doesn't affect his opponent in any way.
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Can I ask though, is D's Aura the source of his Mid-Godly Regen or does he have it all the time?
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His Mid-Godly is passive, he doesn't need an Aura. As for his durability, let me go look
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Alrighty, since it is passive I feel like this is a mismatch as there is nothing Shulk can do to keep D down.
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Shulk can actually use purge to dull D's senses which would end up as incap.
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The thing is, can he do that before D oneshots him?
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Wait. If ya saying D will 1 shot Shulk then why have this match?
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How far above baseline is D?
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They both have a win con that can end the match fairly quickly. I don't see why not.
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As for how far above baseline D is, i'm not sure. He one shots by negging Shulk's durability.
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Then wouldn't this be inconclusive then as it would be 50/50
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D's doesn't matter that much, he can effortlessly hurt people that are much more powerful than him, completely casually
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Does D have any projectile attacks he can hit with that nullify durability?
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He wouldn't need to use a projectile in this case. His sword has Infinite range.
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Pretty sure his range is infinite.
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What about his durability without his aura?
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He can fight Low 2-Cs physically, so still the same
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Alright then, I guess I'll vote inconclusive
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Also does Shulk resist passive Fear Manip and Paralysis Inducement?
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I don't remember about Fear but yes for Paralysis.
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He should be able to, because of his debuff resist gem being able resist the Confuse ailment and Paralysis ailment.
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Say Kira, remind me. What is Shulk's win con again?
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Shulk nulling D's senses
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Oh, so Shulk only needs to land Purge for a win. If so then I'll vote inconclusive as both can basically end it quickly.
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He can null any type of sense ? D have more than 5
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Yeah, it's nulled perception from enemies like telethia that should have more than 5 senses via their telepathy and Alvis explains that in order to beat them you have to dull their perception.Dante Demon Killah said:
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Bump
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Bump
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So, are we in agreement that this match is Inconclusive?
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Yeah, pretty much
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Don't think this was mentioned but, what about D's passive empathic manip? His beauty literally makes men, women, even things like robots feel lightheaded.
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