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Issue with jumping feats

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Found issue with this here. Basically Naruto throws a FRS fast, and Pain jumps even faster to dodge it. However, how do you jump at Mach 2606 and reach a maximum elevation of 1.5 meters? Jumping at that speed straight up would make you leave the planet.

It's different than running, swimming, anything that requires you to make contact with some type of surface, and flight.
 
literally no dodging feats are realistic enough when dodging anything, this is a huge reach fishing for a downgrade again.

going to talk about how fighting at light speed is impossible?

or even moving at mach speeds without destroying everything around you is impossible too?
 
How do you run at Mach 3k without you completely rupturing the earth every step you take?

How do yo punch at Mach 3k without the compressing air from your fists destroying large swaths of the landscape?

How do you fight at light speed since that is physically impossible?
 
are all these hyper realistic limitations going to be set only on Naruto or should we do this for every feat in the site because I dont mind if you decide to dowgrade based on shit like this as long as we apply it to every verse.
 
Yeah this seems like a reach. AoE fallacy type stuff
 
"How do you see/dodge a lightspeed attack when the photons would have reached your eyes at the same time as the attack?"

Needless to say, I do not believe the OP's inquiry is valid.
 
Why do you mention Naruto as if it was the only work on the whole site that have this kind of feat? Why do not you mention Bleach, too? If we apply a downgrade, let's do the same thing with Bleach.

The same argument as you: "How can Lilttoto jump at Mach 40k-30k and reach 7.32204 meters only?"

This is just more proof of your real behavior, a stupid bias against Naruto. And this is not the first time.
 
I actually agree with this to an extent, in the sense that Jumping feats are flawed

Your ability to jump with extra force wouldn't determine your ability to throw punches or run around. It's more strength then actually moving.

A good example of this is how Hulk (Marvel Comics) is portrayed. He has super strength so he can jump far distances, but (at least, as he's portrayed) he's much slower in combat and running.

Jumping could be its own form of travel speed, but otherwise it shouldn't really apply

On the other hand, fiction is far too wack for a Mach 2700 Jump to actually make you leave the planet. Speed is distance over time, and fiction usually stops there.
 
They aren't flawed, jumps use the same muscles you use for running, you might as well say people who run fast don't have reactions on that level.
 
They're both muscles, but there's a difference between the muscles used for jumping and for running

Usian bolt doesn't have the record for jumping and the best jumper doesn't have the record for running. There's a distinction even in real life, and as shown with Hulk, Jumping isn't running even in fiction.

It's like the difference between striking and lifting strength
 
There is none, they're both leg muscles and use the mechanical strength in them to accelerate towards one direction.

I doubt the difference is meaningful enough to substantiate ridiculous gaps such a character having reactions 1000x slower than their leaping abilties even though the fact they're able to leap that fast would directly scale to the speed of their kicks.

They're the same in real life, measured in units of force aka newtons, fiction being trash at keeping them consistent is the reason we separate both, if you want to argue that we shouldn't equate leaping speed to combat reactions you should instead find actual examples of that being the actual case within a fictional work.
 
Jumping is about one burst of strength, running is keeping that strength going for continuous motion. The conditioning is fundamentally different

I already did, Hulk (Marvel Comics)

Another example is Axe Cop (Character) who's MFTL jumping feat is leaps and bounds beyond any of his feats in running or reactions
 
Rocker1189 said:
literally no dodging feats are realistic enough when dodging anything, this is a huge reach fishing for a downgrade again.
going to talk about how fighting at light speed is impossible?

or even moving at mach speeds without destroying everything around you is impossible too?
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There is a complete difference between running and jumping. There is a suspension of disbelief when it comes to running and fighting at these speeds. However when you are jumping you have no control over your motion anymore unless you can glide or fly. As DMUA showed, comic characters are a good example of seeing this somewhat more realistically.

I really don't care about downgrades as much as you say it every single time you stalk me on a thread.
 
You make Naruto downgrade threads all the time to the point of is almost a meme and I am interested in Naruto surprise surprise I come across them. You would notice I don't even appear in anything else you do.

If you have such realism issues go for it, just know you gotta apply it to every verse.
 
Both of you should drop it and talk objectively instead of in Burrito's dad talk
 
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