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Cain (DC Comics) vs Hatou Manabu

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Cain isn't dying. But he has no attack capable of incapping Hatou.

Hatou isn't killing herself by attacking Cain, her Immortality and Resistance seem to be far far above her common attacks.

Incon.
 
EmperorDoom25 said:
How does she has 3 types of Acausality? Is that even possible?
You can look in the respect thread for the details, but in essence she is unaffected by the time paradoxes she causes (Type 1), has no past and future (Type 2) and shares her consciousness with an unlimited amount of alternate "timeline" versions of herself (Type 3).

Dvorak1902 said:
Cain isn't dying. But he has no attack capable of incapping Hatou.

Hatou isn't killing herself by attacking Cain, her Immortality and Resistance seem to be far far above her common attacks.

Incon.
Couldn't Hatou Incap or BFR Cain, though?
 
EmperorDoom25 said:
Cain has Dimensional Travel, so BFR wont work
It says dimensional travel between the dreaming and the real world. Would that enable him to come back when send to a different planet or something?

And does he have a defense against incap?
 
DontTalkDT said:
EmperorDoom25 said:
Cain has Dimensional Travel, so BFR wont work
It says dimensional travel between the dreaming and the real world. Would that enable him to come back when send to a different planet or something?
And does he have a defense against incap?
Not sure

Well, he has Attack Reflection that not even Lucifer attempted to deal with
 
Yeah, been over that in threads before.

That attack reflection isn't assumed to protect him against things which don't physically harm him.
 
Dvorak1902 said:
Couldn't Hatou probability-manip Cain into somehow incapping himself? Does it work like that?
Only if that is a behaviour that is in principle something he might do.

She could probably manipulate all of humanity into building a sturdy prison or rocket around him or into flooding Cain's location with sleeping gas or something, though.
 
Dvorak1902 said:
Hatou isn't killing herself by attacking Cain, her Immortality and Resistance seem to be far far above her common attacks.

Incon.
Its not just attack reflection. You'll also get cursed by the Presence so it doesnt really matter if her immortality/durability is greater than her attacks.

If she can do something to keep Cain from fighting without harming him then she wins. Or she attacks Cain then get cursed by the Presence. Or inconclusive
 
Sandman31 said:
Its not just attack reflection. You'll also get cursed by the Presence so it doesnt really matter if her immortality/durability is greater than her attacks.

If she can do something to keep Cain from fighting without harming him then she wins. Or she attacks Cain then get cursed by the Presence. Or inconclusive
Honestly, I still have my doubts about the entire disaster thing not being outside influence, as it sounds a lot like the Presence actively does stuff to make those things happen.

Though even if that curse could somehow kill her (normal weird accidents wouldn't harm her in any way), since that would only be the individual that harmed him the "parallel timeline" versions of her would remain unkilled, which is enough for her to not really be dead.

As said above, something simple like sleeping gas can probably win this for Hatou.
 
Hatou: 4

Cain: 0

If I count correctly.
 
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