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So, recently we changed -again- some stats from the DMC2 and 4 cast about AP and speed, scalling them to Anime Dante and Sid, when I was editing the pages, I noticed a little problem: DMC4 characters scalling to DMC3 characters in speed
We already discussed that scalling people from other games that aren't relatable it's not a good move, with just a few exceptions, so this is my suggestion:
In DMC4 we have Blitz, a living cloud-to-ground lighting that both Nero and Dante can fight, so Nero's speed, instead of being "massively hypersonic with MHS+ Combat speed and Reactions", which comes from DMC3 Dante, it should just scale to Blitz, like this:
-Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than Holy Knights like Credo and Agnus, can keep up with Blitz)
This scales to Sanctus and Savior, with an "At least" for Full Power Savior
And the Holy Knights, you ask ?
Well, they should be able to fight Blitz but we never see this, and they are casually defeated by Nero even before he awakened his Devil Trigger, so he should scale to Lady, actually
But Dante, you said that they don't scale to people from other games
We have exceptions and this is one of them, Lady is a HUGE FODDER next to Credo and Agnus, and she have a High Hypersonic+ feat, borderline Massively Hypersonic, DMC3 Dante, for example, have MH movement speed because he is far superior to her, almost everyone is
But how Lady is this fast ?
She is just a human, but that isn't a argument since DMC series doesn't follow any logic, and Lady can still fight fodder demons and even some more dangerous in the Anime, so this speed actually make sense for the Lore, and is a Low Ball to almost everyone
This includes Lucia and Arius, I played DMC2 again (yes, kudos for me just for that) and they never interact with Lighting or something like that soooooooooo they should scale to Lady, just like Agnus and Credo
Sooo:
Agnus: At least Massively Hypersonic (Should be far faster than Lady, comparable to Credo)
Credo: At least Massively Hypersonic (Should be far faster than Lady, superior to Agnus as the leader of the Holy Knights)
Arius and Lucia are already Massively Hypersonic, I added them to the CRT just to confirm
Now, about the Anime:
Anime Dante and Sid are "At least MHS+" scalling to each other because of reasons, I believe they actually scale to Blitz for being massively superior to him, but I don't know if this works, because many people are far superior to him, like Trish and Griffon, and they don't scale to his speed, and if we consider that Blitz's Ap is wrong (he's Low 7-B) it would scale to even more people
Why he is Low 7-B, you ask ? In DMC4 he caused a thunderstorm aswell as in DMC4 Deadly Fortune, but if you guys have a problem with this, he have a Ap feat in his first appearance where he destroys pillars that might be Tier 9~8, and he can control natural lighting which is 8-C right ? Well, considering this, even the DMC3 cast would scale to his speed following the same logic as Anime Dante
So I'll let you guys decide if everyone who's stronger than Blitz should scale to his speed, and this is considering that he is 8-C at best, because I already saw some people, Rebuble for example, that don't agree with his Low 7-B AP, because he doesn't cover the horizon in his storm and it doesn't make any sense for a Blitz to be stronger than Temen ni Gru guardians
So, if we scale them to Blitz, everyone besides the Lady and the God Tiers will be Massively Hypersonic+
If not, we should downgrade Anime Dante and Sid speed to "MH with MHS+ combat and reactions"
Now, for the God Tiers
They are Relativistic in Combat and Reactions, however, Dante could blitz Argosax in DMC2 with his movement speed alone in that famous cutscene, so I believe they should be just Relativistic, which makes perfect sense since they are massively superior to literally everyone else in speed
We also have DMC5 Dante fighting Fruit Urizem in mission 17, who's a giant and to dodge his Relativistic punches and their area of effect, Dante would need to be Rel in movement, not just Reactions and Combat
So, that's it guys, tell me what you think
So, recently we changed -again- some stats from the DMC2 and 4 cast about AP and speed, scalling them to Anime Dante and Sid, when I was editing the pages, I noticed a little problem: DMC4 characters scalling to DMC3 characters in speed
We already discussed that scalling people from other games that aren't relatable it's not a good move, with just a few exceptions, so this is my suggestion:
In DMC4 we have Blitz, a living cloud-to-ground lighting that both Nero and Dante can fight, so Nero's speed, instead of being "massively hypersonic with MHS+ Combat speed and Reactions", which comes from DMC3 Dante, it should just scale to Blitz, like this:
-Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than Holy Knights like Credo and Agnus, can keep up with Blitz)
This scales to Sanctus and Savior, with an "At least" for Full Power Savior
And the Holy Knights, you ask ?
Well, they should be able to fight Blitz but we never see this, and they are casually defeated by Nero even before he awakened his Devil Trigger, so he should scale to Lady, actually
But Dante, you said that they don't scale to people from other games
We have exceptions and this is one of them, Lady is a HUGE FODDER next to Credo and Agnus, and she have a High Hypersonic+ feat, borderline Massively Hypersonic, DMC3 Dante, for example, have MH movement speed because he is far superior to her, almost everyone is
But how Lady is this fast ?
She is just a human, but that isn't a argument since DMC series doesn't follow any logic, and Lady can still fight fodder demons and even some more dangerous in the Anime, so this speed actually make sense for the Lore, and is a Low Ball to almost everyone
This includes Lucia and Arius, I played DMC2 again (yes, kudos for me just for that) and they never interact with Lighting or something like that soooooooooo they should scale to Lady, just like Agnus and Credo
Sooo:
Agnus: At least Massively Hypersonic (Should be far faster than Lady, comparable to Credo)
Credo: At least Massively Hypersonic (Should be far faster than Lady, superior to Agnus as the leader of the Holy Knights)
Arius and Lucia are already Massively Hypersonic, I added them to the CRT just to confirm
Now, about the Anime:
Anime Dante and Sid are "At least MHS+" scalling to each other because of reasons, I believe they actually scale to Blitz for being massively superior to him, but I don't know if this works, because many people are far superior to him, like Trish and Griffon, and they don't scale to his speed, and if we consider that Blitz's Ap is wrong (he's Low 7-B) it would scale to even more people
Why he is Low 7-B, you ask ? In DMC4 he caused a thunderstorm aswell as in DMC4 Deadly Fortune, but if you guys have a problem with this, he have a Ap feat in his first appearance where he destroys pillars that might be Tier 9~8, and he can control natural lighting which is 8-C right ? Well, considering this, even the DMC3 cast would scale to his speed following the same logic as Anime Dante
So I'll let you guys decide if everyone who's stronger than Blitz should scale to his speed, and this is considering that he is 8-C at best, because I already saw some people, Rebuble for example, that don't agree with his Low 7-B AP, because he doesn't cover the horizon in his storm and it doesn't make any sense for a Blitz to be stronger than Temen ni Gru guardians
So, if we scale them to Blitz, everyone besides the Lady and the God Tiers will be Massively Hypersonic+
If not, we should downgrade Anime Dante and Sid speed to "MH with MHS+ combat and reactions"
Now, for the God Tiers
They are Relativistic in Combat and Reactions, however, Dante could blitz Argosax in DMC2 with his movement speed alone in that famous cutscene, so I believe they should be just Relativistic, which makes perfect sense since they are massively superior to literally everyone else in speed
We also have DMC5 Dante fighting Fruit Urizem in mission 17, who's a giant and to dodge his Relativistic punches and their area of effect, Dante would need to be Rel in movement, not just Reactions and Combat
So, that's it guys, tell me what you think