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Yogiri Takatou vs Misogi Kumagawa
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Yogiri's death is thought based yes?
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Its thought based and kills an infinite speed being before it can act
Also bumps have no limit to my knowledge it's moreso just annoying to see bump spam
Also bumps have no limit to my knowledge it's moreso just annoying to see bump spam
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Yogiri thinks "Die" then
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Yogiri thinks "Die" gg no re
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That's not a valid vote argument. Speed is equalized.
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This could come out inconclusive. Both think, misogi incaps, Yogiri kills.
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Wait, is this really basic death? All Fiction negs?
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Incon FRA
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I take that back atm. Cus i don't think Yogiri has a win condition here.
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Instant death negs fate and causality manip
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How?Paul Frank said:
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He will powernull a dead person?YungManzi said:
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It just worksFirephoenixearl said:
Speed equal doesn't change the fact that the power automatically works if someone means Yogiri harm which is why it can work faster than infinite speed
Also Yogiri fra I guess
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At best this would be inconc then. Both think, both lose.
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But Yogiri's activates faster even if speed is equal since Kumagawa means him harm
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Did I vote yet? If not, Yogiri FRA
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No. He can sense the intention. He ain't doing that in Kumagawa's time erasure. It's listed as a speed feat on his profile either way so nah. Don't be making his ability passive now.Paul Frank said:
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He predicted the killing intent of an infinite speed creature
Kumagawa aint blitzing here
Kumagawa aint blitzing here
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Yes. It's a speed feat.EmperorDoom25 said:
Yes via time hax and speed equalized.
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Its not a speed feat, he just predicted, thats all
And his precog is passive
And his precog is passive
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Precog doesn't somehow mean he can think before kumagawa in speed equal dude.EmperorDoom25 said:
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Also, the OP didnt equalize speed
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Its listed in his feats section
He subconsciously killed a demon lord and his passive miasma because they would have killed him and he predicted hre's intent and killed it
He subconsciously killed a demon lord and his passive miasma because they would have killed him and he predicted hre's intent and killed it
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Yeah, ID is even "faster" than passives
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>Precog doesn't somehow mean he can think before the opponent in speed equal
>Laughs in Diavolo
>Laughs in Diavolo
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Speed equalized if needed.EmperorDoom25 said:
@Paul
Passive =/= instant all the time. Passive is a means of activation, not speed.
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How is that different?Paul Frank said:
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Precog does let you think faster in speed equal for some reason
Speed equalized if needed but it isn't needed here since it isn't a blitz
He killed a Demon Lord and his miasma he didn't even know was going to kill him subconsciously. It activates if there is intent to harm
Speed equalized if needed but it isn't needed here since it isn't a blitz
He killed a Demon Lord and his miasma he didn't even know was going to kill him subconsciously. It activates if there is intent to harm
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Also, Yogiri constantly combine ID with the killing intent
So, the moment Kumagawa thinks "Oh I'll blitz this g-" *drops dead*
So, the moment Kumagawa thinks "Oh I'll blitz this g-" *drops dead*
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"Killing intent"
I believe i said Kumagawa won't kill and doesn't kill right? That lol nopes the intent thingy.
I believe i said Kumagawa won't kill and doesn't kill right? That lol nopes the intent thingy.
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SBA: "Willing to kill"
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He is willing to kill thanks to sba which is enough
Also iirc it's moreso if something can bring harm to Yogiri than just exclusively intent to kill
Also iirc it's moreso if something can bring harm to Yogiri than just exclusively intent to kill
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His precog let him know about any potential harm towards him even if its not killing intent
He can sense killing intent, and has precog to avoid whats not a killing intent
He can sense killing intent, and has precog to avoid whats not a killing intent
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"After that, Ryōsuke sat back and watched things play out.
If you take aim at him and try to pull the trigger, you die.
But if you just aim at him, you don't.
If you turn on the safety to prevent the gun from firing, you don't die even if you pull the trigger intending to kill him.
You also don't die if you just shoot near him.
If you get creative and try to hit him without aiming, regardless of whether you intend to kill him or not, you still die.
Landmines don't explode when he steps on them, and the person who sets them doesn't die. Apparently, the landmine just breaks instead.
It's the same outcome when multiple people attack him at the same time. Everyone that attempts to kill him dies without exception.
When he's attacked with magic, there are slightly different results. If you have to chant to cast a spell, you die just before you finish saying the last words of the magic incantation. If you have to use a staff to cast the spell, it seems like you die the very instant you think to invoke the magic.
If you attempt to fire off long-distance area-of-effect magic, it doesn't matter whether or not you're aiming for him, you die. It even happens if the caster is unaware that the target is there in the first place.
If you attach a bomb to a random civilian, it just misfires when they get close to him.
If you collapse a building he's close to, he simply senses that he's in danger and leaves the area. If you set it up so perfectly that he's unable to escape in time, he just effortlessly dodges all of the falling rubble.
Poisons were also useless. If you mix it in with his meal, he notices and refuses to eat it. When he's exposed to a colorless poisonous gas, the gas seemingly gets destroyed at the chemical level.
Initially, Ryōsuke was thinking that he was reacting to any killing intent that gets directed at him, but now he was thinking that that wasn't exactly correct.
At the most basic level, it seems to boil down to whether or not his life is in danger, and if it is, then the cause dies or breaks.
His response to distant attacks is so fast that it almost seems automatic."
Good thing I have this passage saved on the blog for this very reason
If you take aim at him and try to pull the trigger, you die.
But if you just aim at him, you don't.
If you turn on the safety to prevent the gun from firing, you don't die even if you pull the trigger intending to kill him.
You also don't die if you just shoot near him.
If you get creative and try to hit him without aiming, regardless of whether you intend to kill him or not, you still die.
Landmines don't explode when he steps on them, and the person who sets them doesn't die. Apparently, the landmine just breaks instead.
It's the same outcome when multiple people attack him at the same time. Everyone that attempts to kill him dies without exception.
When he's attacked with magic, there are slightly different results. If you have to chant to cast a spell, you die just before you finish saying the last words of the magic incantation. If you have to use a staff to cast the spell, it seems like you die the very instant you think to invoke the magic.
If you attempt to fire off long-distance area-of-effect magic, it doesn't matter whether or not you're aiming for him, you die. It even happens if the caster is unaware that the target is there in the first place.
If you attach a bomb to a random civilian, it just misfires when they get close to him.
If you collapse a building he's close to, he simply senses that he's in danger and leaves the area. If you set it up so perfectly that he's unable to escape in time, he just effortlessly dodges all of the falling rubble.
Poisons were also useless. If you mix it in with his meal, he notices and refuses to eat it. When he's exposed to a colorless poisonous gas, the gas seemingly gets destroyed at the chemical level.
Initially, Ryōsuke was thinking that he was reacting to any killing intent that gets directed at him, but now he was thinking that that wasn't exactly correct.
At the most basic level, it seems to boil down to whether or not his life is in danger, and if it is, then the cause dies or breaks.
His response to distant attacks is so fast that it almost seems automatic."
Good thing I have this passage saved on the blog for this very reason
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