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Speed is equalized. Rick has NO prep time, and only the inventions he keeps on him on a regular (his watch, his go-go gadgets, and his portal gun) who wins?

They meet in a dark alley.

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WeeklyBattles said:
With speed equalized Rick should take this via subatomic desintegration with his particle watch.

Agreed.

I am a huge fan of both series and greatly understand the powers of Rick's technology as seen in his show, and also understand Saitama's OP-ness in the One Punch Man anime and manga. The fact is, sheer brute force, power, and durability mean nothing to a lot of the inventions Rick has.

So, with the stated condition of equalized speed, yes, Rick would disintegrate Saitama using his watch, which is a tech that completely bypasses physical durability of the traditional kind like Saitama has. Someone with durability due to Ki, like characters from Dragon Ball Z or Super, or with durability due to some kind of cellular energy-field like Superman, might be able to tank such a subatomic-disintegration beam and disperse the energy of it; but as far as we know from everything in all versions of OPM so far, Saitama's durability is entirely physically-based, i.e. his skin is just absurdly tough. So Rick should take this one unless it is revealed in the future that Saitama's powers have an energy-based aspect as well.

Heck, Rick MIGHT be able to win even if speed weren't equalized, since Saitama would probably underestimate him based on appearances, and also because Saitama often doesn't bother dodging attacks, so he'd be likely to just stand there and try to tank a beam or whatever from any of Rick's inventions based on the belief that it can't possibly hurt him, hahaha.

Also, it was said Rick has his portal-gun, right? Then shouldn't he be able to win via hax BFR, too? As in, just shoot it at Saitama's feet, boom, Saitama falls into a portal LEADING TO THE MIDDLE OF THE VOID OF SPACE. . .within however long it takes a guy of Saitama's level to suffocate, he suffocates. So, yeah.
 
Saitama not dodging attacks? Have you seen Saitama vs Genos. He'd probably won't want his clothes to be ripped, so he'd just dodge everything if speed would be unequalized. Plus, in the Boros fight, if Saitama actually realizes Rick's a threat, or if Saitama realizes Rick can actually kill him, he'd pull a serious punch on Rick, blowing him to bits, and destroying most of the area they're fighting i.

Don't single out Saitama now, I mean, come on! He has a horrible win/loss ratio right now.
 
Saitama punches the air, creating a shockwave which destroys Rick.

Saitama punching is an opening move, while Rick has no idea who he's up against. No idea hwo strong Saitama is or what gadgets to pull.

Saitama takes it very easily.
 
Saitama punching has only ever been an opening move against monsters, and even then he usually doesn't do it unprovoked.

Rick has quite a few things which can destroy Saitama. It's not like he needs to pull a specific gadget, especially when a lot of them just ignore durability outright.
 
Hmmmmm. I guess it's hard to say for this one. I mean it's true that if Saitama just punched the air in front of him, then RIck would be GONE before he'd know what happened. However. . .the stipulations of the fight did not say they are bloodlusted. And anyone who reads the manga knows that Saitama has deliberately NEVER used lethal force against other humans. So unless we stipulate that this match has Saitama bloodlusted, or unless we stipulate that Saitama goes into the match already knowing Rick's capabilities, there is no way he would open with a punch powerful enough to kill.

There's actually a very good chance that Saitama would, in fact, take it way, way too easy in the initial opening against Rick, considering that 1. Rick is, by appearance, a seemingly ordinary human; and 2. He's a quite-visibly drunk, scrawny-looking old man. Saitama, if he even threw a punch at all, would at first throw one with the intention of knocking over a skinny old man, having no way to know that even without gadgets Rick is (probably due to scientific enhancements on himself) at peak-human/wall-level for his attacks and durability.

It is true that Rick, on the other hand, does not hesitate to vaporize ordinary humans with his particle-beam wristwatch (like when he enters the Pentagon in Season 2, Ep. 5). However, those were guys in full body-armor and with guns which they had pointed at him, thus posing an obvious threat. Rick would be likely to at first underestimate Saitama almost as much as Saitama would underestimate Rick. I mean, Saitama is just a fairly well-muscled but normal-looking bald dude.

So the real question, since both of these opponents are likely to underestimate the other at first, is: Who in this fight would get serious first due to realizing the other's capabilities? I'd argue Rick, due to his far greater intelligence and his repeatedly-shown reliance on tactical intellect in combat situations (I could cite an example or two if need be). In which case Rick would win as the first to get at all serious; as long as he gets a chance to use either the wristwatch or the portal-gun before Saitama realizes what a threat he is, Saitama will die instantly, end of story.

So does anyone else think that this analysis is correct; that due to greater intellect in battle, Rick would be likely to realize his opponent's nature first and would thus claim the victory? Because that's the kind of battle this is, the kind that goes instantly to whoever makes the first semi-serious move.

Unless someone can point out a major problem with all my above analyses, I believe the conclusion is this:

Rick wins due to his greater intelligence making him the first to realize the true threat posed by the other combatant. At that point, his victory is due to his weapons being ones which negate physical durability. End of match, Saitama dead, Genos and Morty both left standing there in shock (although much less shock and much more quickly recovered-from in Morty's case) :p The end.


Btw guys in case you were wondering: In terms of my knowledge of the series I am a HUGE fan of both, I have read and seen ALL the media for both OPM (yes, even the original webcomic) and R&M (yes, even the comics) several times over. So I know the feats and traits of both of these characters as well as any fan is able to :) I am a huge fan of Saitama, this is true, even to the point of near Saitama-wankery at times (it's hard NOT to fan-wank Saitama, he's just so damn awesome), but I can see when he's beat either due to superior power or haxx. Against Rick, he would be beat. The super-science of Rick's universe/multiverse is just too damn HAXX compared to anything in One Punch Man. Rick could probably make someone into a cyborg even stronger than Genos, for example, as easily as most people tie their shoelaces.
 
Simply put, if Rick gets prep time or gets speed equalized he probably wins against Saitama.

Don't give him any of those and he could put up a good fight but Saitama will have a higher chance of winning since he can still overwhelm him via speed unless he gets on a spaceship.
 
CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
Simply put, if Rick gets prep time or gets speed equalized he probably wins against Saitama.
Don't give him any of those and he could put up a good fight but Saitama will have a higher chance of winning since he can still overwhelm him via speed unless he gets on a spaceship.
So true. Even then though, Saitama could still EASILY lose given his unwillingness to use lethal force against humans and the fact that Rick's weapons can one-hit-kill him.

Now, a non-speed-equalized bloodlusted Saitama vs a bloodlusted Rick. . . .Saitama would win the moment the fight starts with a punch thrown at relativistic speeds. Sure, Rick's portal gun could kill Saitama, but not if Rick has no time to react :p

But this fight never said they were bloodlusted. I think with equalized speed Rick wins EASILY, with non-equalized speed Rick PROBABLY still wins, and with both bloodlusted Saitama wins.
 
I'd say that given saitama's personallity and abilities, Rick's best chance is to put saitama in deep space whare he won't be able to go anywhere since there would be nothing for him to jump off of. now Rick getting that chance is a whole nother can of worms entirelly.
 
Standard battle assumptions- Both in character but willing to kill

Willing to kill saitama will go for the kill,bloodlusted or not,saitama always kills with the first punch(i mean except boros and garou but that's a different topic)

Any time saitama was "willing to kill" someone,he did so without wasting any sort of time or movement,and also a willing to kill rick will also go for instant kill,but saitama is far faster and can probably just wave hard enough to obliterate rick.BUT

Since speed is equalized it comes down the OP to specify the distance,because saitama doesn't attack with shockwaves.he prefers to actually land the punches.So if the fight starts in melee range saitama wins if not then rick wins.
 
Dark alley was the condition yeah? I still say Rick though he seems perfectly capable of defending himself in the dark (as seen in the R&M episode "Look Who's Purging Now"), and with speed equalized as proposed Rick should be able to react just as well as Saitama to the impending confrontation---We've seen many times in the show that Rick is a VERY quick-thinking and quick-moving guy whenever conflict suddenly arises.

Speed not equalized in a dark alley, Saitama would stomp really quickly. Speed not equalized in a an area and scenario where they both have a clear view of the other from the start---I'm not really sure, then it'd really depend on how seriously Saitama decides to take things which is unfortunately quite unpredictable. . . .so.


Wait. . .if they met in a dark alley. . .Saitama doesn't happen to be on his way to a special sale at the supermarket, does he? Because if Rick is delaying him from going him to a special sale. . .then it's a different story dude, Rick would be a dead man. HAHAHAHA.
 
People really seem to really ******* hate Saitama. this goes to Rick easily, with speed equalized it isn't even a figth in the first place due to subatomic disintegration and BFR.
 
Mefre said:
People really seem to really ******* hate Saitama. this goes to Rick easily, with speed equalized it isn't even a figth in the first place due to subatomic disintegration and BFR.
It's not really that folks hate Saitama it's just that despite his tier his powers aren't really that "special." He's just got super-speed, reflexes and coordination, durability, and strength of a high degree. That's it. Not even flight. No longterm abiity to survive without air. Not any Regenerationn that's ever been indicated, just the high durability. No energy-projection of any kind, either. And he's also not in any way a skilled martial artist. Nor is he very smart, really. And finally, and most important in a lot of Vs-Battles (including this one) he has no real haxx-resistance! So, putting all that together, that's why despite his impressive power he tends to lose Vs. Battles all the time. Which does make me sad.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Saitama punching has only ever been an opening move against monsters, and even then he usually doesn't do it unprovoked.
Rick has quite a few things which can destroy Saitama. It's not like he needs to pull a specific gadget, especially when a lot of them just ignore durability outright.
In the fight with genos he use the death punch and he destroeyed a mounain with just the shockwave of his punch
 
so i give the win to saitama becaues Rick is cocky and you forget about satiama serious series move all saitama have to do is flip the ground and rick senses can't react to it, and then satiama take it then punch him
 
saitama takes this rick is too full of himself and saitama will go straight for the kill

unless rick has prep wish in that case he stomps
 
Rick takes this fight. With speed equalized, I see no reason why he wouldn't just use his portal gun Or Ray gun to destroy of bfr Saitama.
 
CA spiderman said:
saitama takes this rick is too full of himself and saitama will go straight for the kill
unless rick has prep wish in that case he stomps
I don't believe Saitama has ever gone straight for the kill. If anything he'd see Rick as just an ordinary elderly human and not even consider him a threat.

Rick on the other hand has no problems with killing people as seen when confronted by the military in the episode(Don't know the name) where that giant head shows up.
 
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