aNoTHeR inFamous Abilities Revision

Alright hello, its ya boi, PTSOXMONEY99, and its that time of the year again~

Realized that there are some additional abilities that need to be added, some more clarifications needed, and maybe an ability that needs to be removed, so lets get to it

Kessler:

Limited Resistance to Gravity Manipulation: Kessler can take hits from Cole's shockwaves, and doesn't have his gravity reversed and sent flying. He still takes damage from the kinetic force of the attack, but the gravity nullifying effects don't effect him.

Genius Intelligence: Comes from the future and has knowledge on futuristic technology, helped build the Ray Sphere and design the Ray Field Inhibitor, etc.

Preparation: Basically all of the events in inFamous 1 and some events in inFamous 2 happen because he had prep time to set everything up. Can use his time travel to go back in time and use his knowledge from the present to change the past in his favor.

Resistance to Status Effect Inducement: Sasha's tar is known to cause fatal seizures in those who are exposed to it. Kessler was exposed to it, and was completely unaffected but it. Therefore, he should have resistance

Resistance to Corruption (Type 2): Blah blah lolnoped Sasha's tar

Resistance to Telepathy: FRA (also Gar was arguing for this awhile back so it should be added already)

Resistance to Power Nullification: This one I'm a bit more hesitant to give to him. It was noted in the Dead Drops that Sasha was frustrated that her usual methods weren't working on Kessler at all, but besides that, we don't have much else. Plus, this clearly wouldn't scale to Cole at all since he nearly got obliterated by Sasha's tar during his first exposure and then adapted to it and became resistant.

Sasha (InFAMOUS):

Limited Resistance to Gravity Manipulation: Same reasons as Kessler, though I'm a bit more hesitant to give it to her since, Cole fought Kessler at the end of the game, when he was at his strongest, whereas Cole fought Sasha early on in the game, and iirc, not sure if you can get the gravity nullifying upgrade that early in the game

Genius Intelligence: Was one of the scientist hired on by the First Sons to help them in their quest to advance Conduit's evolution. Even before her powers were activated, she was working on a substance that was meant to be a mind control agent

The Beast (InFAMOUS):

Radiation Manipulation: Can manipulate, control and produce Ray Field radiation, an in-verse radiation that is the fuel source for all genetic mutations, and what gives Conduits there superpowers. They really should've already had this

Berserk Mode: At the beginning of the game, after resurrecting, he has little control over himself and starts rampaging through Empire City. This is confirmed by John himself here and again in the Evil Ending. Though it appears that it can't be used voluntarily, and only when he resurrects.

Extrasensory Perception: He sorta already has this via RFI sensing, but he was also able to sense that Cole was "the strongest threat in Empire City" and was able to sense the large army forming in New Marais to try and stop him.

Likely Inorganic Physiology: As we saw with the Beast boss fights, John does't really have organs anymore, and his body appears to be made of a lava-esque substance

Cole MacGrath (Evil Karma):

(For Beast Cole) Radiation Manipulation and Inorganic Physiology: Same reason as the Beast, as he literally receives his powers at the end of the game

For both Good Cole and Evil Cole:

Resistance to Corruption (Type 2) and Telepathy FRA

Resistance to Status Effect Inducement: Same reasons as Kessler, as he resisted Sasha's tar

Resistance to Power Absorption: Resisted the Beast's power draining grasp at the end of the second game, even though at the start of the game it broke his powers.

Life Energy Absorption should probably be removed. The reason being is because I can't find any direct mention of Cole draining life energy. The only mentions of it I could find are the in-game description of Ionic Drai, and the in-game description of Bio Leech. The thing is, the first one only says, "drain the life" which can just be a fancy way of saying draining someones bio-electricity. The second one mentions "leech someone elses energy", which again, can just be another fancy way of saying draining someones bio-electricity. Couldn't find anything else besides these two quotes.

We should also remove Durability Negation for Skull Bolt and Sadistic Strike, as its only stated to cause critical damage, not ignore dura.

David Warner:

He should also lose his Life Energy Absorption, since the comic only mentions that he drains neuro-electric energy. Cole and by Kessler by extension, should lose their resistance to life force drain for this reason, though they still get resistance to bio-electricity absorption

Yeah, I can agree with electricity draining not being life manipulation and generally everything here

Looks good.

Didn't Cole get Kessler's memories? Shouldn't he get genius intelligence too? Well, he might get it anyways just from the sheer fact that he would've done the same stuff Kessler did if he went down the same path.

Regardless, I agree with the above.

Probably, if you think about it

Also, since we're here on a CRT, let's talk how we scale this forker

Maybe different keys? 7-B for Early-Mid Game, 7-A for late game. We'll adjust stats to those who scale appropriately.

Yeah, that probably makes sense

Bump

Specifically, here's what I'm thinking as per stats:

Sasha would be At least 7-B, likely Higher for fighting a more mid game Cole, who wouldn't be at full potency and generally doesn't have too solid of proof to be 7-A

Alden should probably be just 7-A for fighting a near end of game Cole, though he may not get a + rating since Cole was put through quite a bit more before being able to use the fullest of his powers

Then of course Kessler should be 7-A+ for fighting EOG Cole and surviving a lightning storm head on, only dying several moments later after injecting Cole with memories then eventually succumbing to his wounds from the fight.

Then of course Cole would have a BOG key and an EOG key, Evil Cole would be High 7-A.

I think I can agree with that.

Would Evil Cole also have two keys? I'm assuming so, I just need to make sure.

Eh

Yeah that would make sense, even if he'd be a perfect equal to regular cole statsitically

Scaling makes sense to me

Sasha would be 7B since she can hurt Cole after the Ray Sphere feat and after he's absorbed a couple of power stations

Alden is probably in the 7A range because iirc, he could compete with Cole when he was one substation away from unlocking Lightning Storm

Kessler and David would obviously scale to EoG Cole with Lightning Storm. Idk how they'd scale, since Kessler was eventually killed by said attack, but that was after an extended fight with a pissed off Cole. David was blown apart by Lightning Storm, but was fighting Cole on even grounds when he was using his regular attacks.

Also agree on early/mid/late game keys for Cole to fix scaling issues

Question, how would the "higher with Lightning Storm" but fit into this, if at all?

It would probably just be null, since lightning storm is calced as 7-A+ and his normal attacks can use similar amounts of energy to it, or at least, enough so that he's not all the way back in 7-B.

Makes sense to me

I call remaking Cole vs MCU Thor

Nah, it's overdone. Dibs on Cole vs. Vision.

Then I shall resurrect its corpse to once again do our bidding

So, uh, is any of this gonna get added?

We could probably do so

after the calc gets evaluated

I'm mostly waiting for the calc to be evaluated so I can do it all in one go

http://web.archive.org/web/20160505...aka-mikoto-energy-projection-2-level-6.20550/

There is a very obvious flaw with that method that should be evident to anyone who has seen real lightning in their lifes.

The apparent size of the bolt cannot be used to measure the width of the channel, why?

Because ones in real life are only the width of a human thumb and spite of that, fact bolts of lightning can be seen for several kilometers away.

The apparent width of the bolt is increased by luminosity, it is not a reliable way to infer the width of the channel the current passes through, applying this method to real life lightning bolts would give very unrealistic results even with a microsecond timeframe.

Well, in this case, you can clearly see the ground visibly scorched with around the same width as the apparent bolt, indicating it's not just light.

Dunno how that would mess with misaka's stats though, but at the least, it should apply to Cole.

Seems good

DMUA said:

Well, in this case, you can clearly see the ground visibly scorched with around the same width as the apparent bolt, indicating it's not just light.

Dunno how that would mess with misaka's stats though, but at the least, it should apply to Cole.

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I was thinking that would be a more reliable way to infer the width of channel in both instances, but the general method makes it seem like one could get a bolts AP based off its apparent size only which is very flawed for reasons mentioned.

Yeah I see what you're talking about, but, luminosity doesn't leave behind smoking craters, so I think we can apply a little bit of fiction and use the method if conditions are met

That seems fine.

That should downgrade Misaka as well

Made some edits to the OP

Isn't bio-electricity kinda the closest thing we have to real life life energy? I can see how that could be confusing though. Neutral on that.

I think we really on treat something as life energy if it's specifically stated to be life energy. Plus, we really only have confirmation that Cole can manipulate lighting, electromagnetism, kinetic energy, and ice/fire. The whole "draining life" bit could just be a flowery way of saying he's stealing their bio-electric energy, the stuff needed to keep their nervous system going

I guess maybe it could be pseudo life manipulation? It's really just a slightly more advanced form of electricity manipulation

Yeah, that makes sense. Even if you could argue that electricity is kinda life energy in a way. Just not how we define it. Agree with removal.

Really at this point I'm just waiting for DMUA's calc to get cleared so I can add all of this stuff in one shot

Any word on the calc getting accepted?

the only evaluation is Schmuck jokingly leaving a comment despite him not being a calcing boy

Looks like it's that time again

I Sacrifice

Dangit PTSO you only have so much blood for the Behielts or however the fork they're spelled

''Robs blood bank''

BUMP in hopes that the new calc gets some attention

Actually now that I think about it

I may be able to use lightning math on the BOS thunderstrike

maybe get upgrades across the board

Wew boy

Though I kinda wanna be cautious since it could lead to some inflated results

Though I guess surviving a 7B explosion at his weakest kinda helps his chances