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This has been a long time coming I tell ya.
Currently, our GoH profiles are a mess. Jae-Kal's profile has random AP values, Il-Pyo only has one key (No pun intended), Mu-Ji has a 5-B key where he backscales from a 5-A feat, etc.
These are just some of the profiles that look absolutely horrible, and the only up to date profile is arguably Jin Mo-Ri.
Anyway, let's get started.
Chapter 1 and 2 Scaling
Anyway, here's the summary:
GoH Contestants and Executives are 8-C.
The Six, Sang Man-Duk, Angelos, Borrowed Power Il-Pyo, and Jae-Kal with the Key absorbed are varying levels of 6-C. Mi-Ra with her Borrowed Power and National Treasure are also possibly this tier.
Mo-Ri with an incomplete memory in Monkey King Form is 5-A.
Chapter 3 Scaling
To summarise:
Bishops and all who scale are 6-C.
Priests and GoH combatants scale to each other but it is unknow what the scaling is at this point, though they could be possibly 7-A.
Princes of Natak and all who scale are High 4-C.
Chapter 4 Scaling
Summary:
"Borrowed Power" Q, Blessed Priests, Mo-Ri Hui in Monkey King Mode, Dante, Alexsandors, and all who scale get 6-C.
GoH contestants in this part get 7-A.
Okhwang gets an At least High 4-C rating.
Chapter 5 Scaling
Here it comes baby.
Summary:
GoH contestants get 7-A as usual.
Q gets 6-C in his Power Lenderization form.
Gods and all who scale get High 4-C.
Supreme God Jin and R get 4-B. Okhwang may also get this tier for his Prime key, as he royally beat the original Monkey King even after the latter ate Samjang.
Edit: After some discussion, it would make sense, scaling wise, if Samuel in Power Lenderization form is Low 4-C, likely High 4-C as he fought Mo-Ri Hui, who in base could push back Jupiter. This scales to Chapter 5 homeless man whom Hui credits as being stronger than Samuel, and Taboo lifted Bishops. This tiering is supported by the fact that homeless man fought Zeus almost evenly and managed to bruise him. It also scales nicely to all members of The Six being somewhat comparable to each other with Ungnyeo being able to harm Okhwang, Dusik sukerpunching Zeus, Mu-Jin fighting Taboo lifted Bishops, and Na Bong Chim supporting Tae-Jin in fighting Odin.
Chapter 6
As this chapter is still ongoing and has been confirmed to be the last chapter, I won't be going through it just yet. Scaling for this chapter will probably be self contained like the first two chapters given the fact that Mo-Ri's power has been sealed, and most characters got weaker after the timeskip.
Powers and Abilities
The powers and abilities of a lot of profiles are severely lacking. This part can't be adjusted in a single post as each individual character has their own unique powers and abilities so I'll just point out that eventually, we have to adjust each and every single one of them. This may take the longest, but I assure you it will be worth it because based on my rereading of the series, we missed out a flip ton of hax.
Overall
There are still some speed issues and lifting strength issues, but I've spent the past week reading all I can from the manhua and I'm exhausted. Any and all other issue should be brought up in the thread. Seriously, this is exhausting, how the hell did Matt do this for Elder Scrolls?
Anyway, thanks for reading through. I'm gonna take a nap now.
Currently, our GoH profiles are a mess. Jae-Kal's profile has random AP values, Il-Pyo only has one key (No pun intended), Mu-Ji has a 5-B key where he backscales from a 5-A feat, etc.
These are just some of the profiles that look absolutely horrible, and the only up to date profile is arguably Jin Mo-Ri.
Anyway, let's get started.
Chapter 1 and 2 Scaling
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Ok, so early chapters of GoH don't really showcase a lot of impressive feats, but we do have GoH contestants at 8-C thanks to this calc. All GoH contestants scale to this value as they all fight each other of at least fight someone who scales to this calc at some point within the first two chapters. The Executives also scale to this but at a higher level. Now, The Six are all comparable, so they all scale to Mu-Jin's casual island crushing feat. Man-Duk is Mu-Jin's equal so he scales as well. An Angelo survived Jae-San's meteor and magic missile combo which kills the latter and wipes out all of Seoul. This makes all the above characters at least 6-C. After the nuke-meteor combo, Jae-Kal swoops in and consumes Il-Pyo's Borrowed Power. Something he couldn't do before gaining more power, which would make Il-Pyo stronger than him. Consuming Il-Pyo's Borrowed Power makes him powerful enough to kill Angelos like they're nothing. The same Angelos that can tank a 6-C attack. Later on, Mo-Ri remembers that he's the Monkey King, and proceeds to almost obliterate Jae-Kal with his staff, a staff that has been confirmed to be 5-A thanks to a previous clac. Jae-Kal then absorbs a bunch of Angelos and becomes as strong as Mo-Ri. Or maybe he doesn't. I don't know, Mo-Ri kinda just stomps him, which makes sense here. |
Anyway, here's the summary:
GoH Contestants and Executives are 8-C.
The Six, Sang Man-Duk, Angelos, Borrowed Power Il-Pyo, and Jae-Kal with the Key absorbed are varying levels of 6-C. Mi-Ra with her Borrowed Power and National Treasure are also possibly this tier.
Mo-Ri with an incomplete memory in Monkey King Form is 5-A.
Chapter 3 Scaling
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| Sang Man-Duk being a Bishop himself, means that all Bishops scale to him, making them 6-C. Mo-Ri can fight Soo-Jin, a Bishop, in base, which makes his base form 6-C now. Mo-Ri later fights the false Monkey King fairly in base, which makes sense because he completely stomps all the other monkeys when he temporally changes to his Monkey King Form. Then we get a nice few chapters of Oxen King completely wreaking a Bishop even after he ate her horn. But her scaling comes later. Anyway, some stuff goes down, and the gang can't use their Borrowed Power because Soo-Jin will null them if they do. Mi-Ra gets her limiter removed using acupuncture and manages to one-shot a Priest with Heaven Splitter. This is where the 7-A feat comes from. But it's uncalced so I'm iffy about this one. Anyway, scaling wise, the main cast with their Borrowed Power seem to fair evenly with Priests, so whatever tier they get scales to Priests as well. Later on, the Three Princes of Natak arrive, and fight Soo-Jin with her Curse Armour, Seung-Chul with a Direct Contract with Oxen King, and Il-Pyo with a Direct Contract with the Nine Tailed Fox. So they all scale to each other. Later on, Mo-Ri comes out with his full memories and Armoursuits and proceeds to fight the eldest Natak brother. Thanks to PowerToScale, we now know that the explosion of the planet they are on amounts to High 4-C. This scales to everyone who fought the brothers. |
Bishops and all who scale are 6-C.
Priests and GoH combatants scale to each other but it is unknow what the scaling is at this point, though they could be possibly 7-A.
Princes of Natak and all who scale are High 4-C.
Chapter 4 Scaling
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| So right off the bat, Okhwang completely destroys De-Wi's eye, unrelated to scaling but still fun to point out considering how ironic it will be later on. R fights Mo-Ri's clone, Mo-Ri Hui, as an Executive but gets beat pretty easily, so he turns on his Bishop powers and proceeds to make a joke out of Hui in Monkey King Mode. Hui gets saved by Q who uses his Borrowed Power to even the playing field with R. Everyone I've talked about above should be 6-C. I'm iffy if this scales to other Executives, because Q's Borrowed Power is unique. I'll explain later. Also, a priest with the Blessing of God could fight evenly with Mujin. Blessings should also grant this tier. Now comes the As an added bonus, Okhwang fights both Mo-Ri Jin and Il-Pyo and thrashes them. This makes Old Okhwang at least High 4-C. There are some miscellaneous scalings later on but this should cover most of it. |
"Borrowed Power" Q, Blessed Priests, Mo-Ri Hui in Monkey King Mode, Dante, Alexsandors, and all who scale get 6-C.
GoH contestants in this part get 7-A.
Okhwang gets an At least High 4-C rating.
Chapter 5 Scaling
Here it comes baby.
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| So the first half of this chapter is dedicated to an actual tournament and some character development for Mo-Ri Hui. That's nice but tiering doesn't change. GoH contestants scale to each other and should still be 7-A. Except Mo-Ri Hui. Hui trained with one of The Six and became even stronger. He fights Samuel, who is the direct descendant of Hercules. Basically, this boosts his Borrowed Power to the status of Power Lenderization. It is revealed that Q is also a Power Lender, which is why his stats should be different from the other Executives. Plus, he becomes one of The Six later on which just strengthens this. Anyway, Samuel lending power from Hercules temporally makes him possessed by Hercules himself. Also, Hercules' sky lifting feat is canon, which, thanks to this profile, makes Power Lenderized Samuel 6-C. Surprisingly consistent. This scales to base Hui as he can fight Power Lenderized Samuel and stomped every other contestant up until Samuel. Also minor side note, Samuel can carry fake Yeoui. This should give him Class Y lifting strength. Anyway, here comes the espionage part. I say espionage, but they aren't doing a good job at being subtle. So the Executives and Team Korea sneak into the underground portion of the GoH stadium. On the way, they encounter Priests and two Bishops. This further solidifies the scaling as the Executives struggle to kill the two Bishops and Dae-Wi and Mi-Ra fight Priests on somewhat even grounds. So it is at this point, Dae-Wi bites the dust. We all have a cry, and the man comes back from the dead later on. Whoops, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Q fights Bishop Xiaochen one on one, further confirming that he's stronger than other Executives. Hui confronts Okhwang and pulls a little sneaky on him by letting Ungnyeo absorb the power he was building up for himself. Anyway, now that Ungnyeo has the original power of Eve, she can fight evenly with Okhwang. I say evenly but it's more like comparatively. Because Hui and Ungnyeo still get trashed around like they are nothing. Hui can't even stagger the guy unless he's using acupuncture in Monkey King Mode, or after he gets a boost from Ungnyeo. It is also at this point we must realize that the real Mo-Ri is getting closer to Earth, and he only tore Okhwang's arm after getting power boosted, so Hui fighting Okhwang in base is not outlier and doesn't affect his previous stats. This means that Ungnyeo is High 4-C in her Prime, and Hui is Likely higher with acupuncture. So now, Dusik, Mu-Jin, and the homeless guy (Can't recall his name), and the Executives reach the surface and the Bishops decide to lift the Taboo on themselves. Mu-Jin comments that he needs at least 3 of The Six to properly kill one Taboo lifted Bishop. This puts Bishops at At least 6-C. Then Okhwang takes the body of Dante, and becomes young again. However, it should be noted that this is a temporary body and not one that reflects his prime. He is stronger that his old self in this body, but significantly weaker than his prime. After all, his prime was a person who scared even the original Monkey King. And the latter even states he wasn't even using his full power at the time. However, this Dante-Okhwang is still no pushover and manages to beat the crap out of everyone even after getting power nulled by Soo-Jin's Pandora. The man still manages to beat Hui after getting all the powers of his allies and the latter only stood a chance when he gets Jin's Yeoui. Even then, Hui only stood a chance because Mu-Jin sealed part of Okhwang's powers with the Holy Grail. This beast of a man is so hilariously high end High 4-C, it makes me shudder to think what he was like in his prime. We have not even gotten to the good part yet. R betrays Okhwang and uses the staff of the sage to summon every God in the Heavenly Realm. And guess what, Okhwang has been weakened this whole time because R poisoned all Dante clones prior to this. Seriously, I know I keep bringing up how much of a beast Okhwang is, but the man in his prime should probably be 4-B, and I'm just stating all the reasons why I believe so. So it is at this point that we learn that R is Okhwang's first child and the original Greed. This will be important later. So the Gods get summoned and wreak havoc on the world. Then the OG himslef Dusik, straight up punches Hades and destroys his physical form for awhile, and then combos Zeus like a straight up boss. Of course Zeus is unfazed and casually slaps Dusik all the way to China. That is not hyperbole. Anyway, Hui and the homeless man attempt to fight Zeus but they are no match. Eventually they one-up Zeus by having him ingest a grenade that was inside the homeless man's arm. The homeless man gets beat eventually and then Zeus hears boss music as Dusik comes in and sucker-punches the guy at full speed. We later learn that this Dusik is known as Monster Dusik, and only comes out when his life is at around 10%. Dusik harming Zeus as Monster Dusik is consistent as we find out later. Anyway, Dusik gets pommeled by Zeus shortly after and Okhwang sacrifices himself to resurrect Dae-Wi and boost Mi-Ra. He gave Dae-Wi his mind, which allows him to use his abilities, and he gave Mi-Ra his body, which is the vessel that allows him to use his awesome power. Naturally, Dae-Wi kicks the asses of Zeus' pantheon and fights evenly with the other Gods. However without the Body of the King, using Okhwang's powers puts a strain on Dae-Wi. Now comes the famous "planet pushing" scene, where Dae-Wi calls down Mars, and Satan calls down Jupiter, and the combined forces of Dae-Wi and Mi-Ri Hui push back both planets. This is now an obsolete feat but still a nice supporting feat. This feat kills Hui however, but don't worry, in the same chapter, Mo-Ri Jin comes back. And he royally screws all the other Gods before Satan. Now at this point, I want to point out that the Gods all scale to Okhwang, him being a God and all, so they are all naturally High 4-C. The ones who scale to them include Mo-Ri Jin, King of Earth Dae-Wi, and Monster Dusik. It should also be noted that Tae-Jin also managed to fight Odin after becoming a God of Fight candidate, so he should also get the above tiering. Then Mo-Ri Jin fights Satan, but this part has been gone over in detail and is the reason why Jin and Satan's profiles are up to date. Besides the new High 4-C scaling and the adjustments for the multipliers, there is nothing much more to say. Mo-Ri in X250 000 should be higher end 4-B now and scales to Satan's Phase 3 durability. Later on, Mo-Ri breaks his "crown" and becomes the Supreme God. This form of Mo-Ri forced Satan back into his base form in one kick, so he also gets 4-B. Later, it turns out that R is actually a quadruple agent, and uses his Greed to absorb the Gods and fight Mo-Ri Jin on even grounds. He then breaks Taboo for everyone on the planet, allowing humans to fight Gods evenly. After everything is said and done, R dies to outlier and there is a moment of peace. Then Mu-Jin stabs Tae-Jin from behind and this makes sense because the Taboo is no more. This is one more person who scales to High 4-C. Then Tae-Jin dies and Mo-Ri's power gets sealed by the Holy Grail |
GoH contestants get 7-A as usual.
Q gets 6-C in his Power Lenderization form.
Gods and all who scale get High 4-C.
Supreme God Jin and R get 4-B. Okhwang may also get this tier for his Prime key, as he royally beat the original Monkey King even after the latter ate Samjang.
Edit: After some discussion, it would make sense, scaling wise, if Samuel in Power Lenderization form is Low 4-C, likely High 4-C as he fought Mo-Ri Hui, who in base could push back Jupiter. This scales to Chapter 5 homeless man whom Hui credits as being stronger than Samuel, and Taboo lifted Bishops. This tiering is supported by the fact that homeless man fought Zeus almost evenly and managed to bruise him. It also scales nicely to all members of The Six being somewhat comparable to each other with Ungnyeo being able to harm Okhwang, Dusik sukerpunching Zeus, Mu-Jin fighting Taboo lifted Bishops, and Na Bong Chim supporting Tae-Jin in fighting Odin.
Chapter 6
As this chapter is still ongoing and has been confirmed to be the last chapter, I won't be going through it just yet. Scaling for this chapter will probably be self contained like the first two chapters given the fact that Mo-Ri's power has been sealed, and most characters got weaker after the timeskip.
Powers and Abilities
The powers and abilities of a lot of profiles are severely lacking. This part can't be adjusted in a single post as each individual character has their own unique powers and abilities so I'll just point out that eventually, we have to adjust each and every single one of them. This may take the longest, but I assure you it will be worth it because based on my rereading of the series, we missed out a flip ton of hax.
Overall
There are still some speed issues and lifting strength issues, but I've spent the past week reading all I can from the manhua and I'm exhausted. Any and all other issue should be brought up in the thread. Seriously, this is exhausting, how the hell did Matt do this for Elder Scrolls?
Anyway, thanks for reading through. I'm gonna take a nap now.
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