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Commandments Across Time

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Demon Takumo 31 said:
Diavolo can see 10 seconds into the future and see what Rohan will do, then he erase time and kill him.
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Heaven's Door thought based action is faster than Epitaph + Time Erase, since Diavolo needs to take two actions to win here, while Rohan just need one.
 
Rohan learns about the history of the arrows and Passione FRA I guess.
 
When have Rohan immediately use Heavens Door? If I remeber it correctly when he is questionaing Hayato he tried talking to him first and only used it when hayato tried to run away, and when the RPS kid was bothering him he only used it after the kid stole his taxi.
 
This is inconclusive as both can pull out their ability at the exact same time. King Crimson's thought based and Epitaph is passive, so he too only needs to think once.
 
Epitaph is only precognition. The erasing time part is still thought based, and that's the thing that lets him survive getting booked by Rohan.
 
Yeah Diavolo has to conciously use Epitaph to take advantage of it. its not just something that can instantaniously be used/resolved.
 
Yea, I'm going Rohan FRA. Even if we say Epitaph is passive, as the battle starts, this will happen;

1. Battle starts, Diavolo thinks about his precog.

2. Diavolo uses King Crimson- oh wait, HD already hit him.

It takes two thoughts to look through precog, then use King Crimson. It takes one thought to Heaven's Door.

And that's if we assume it's passive 100% of the time, and he's always looking into it.
 
>tfw I'm always telling people epitaph isn't passive and doesn't result in diavolo erasing time the second the fight starts and it takes a rematch against Rohan for people to understand it
 
Paul Frank said:
>tfw I'm always telling people epitaph isn't passive and doesn't result in diavolo erasing time the second the fight starts and it takes a rematch against Rohan for people to understand it
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Even if it was passive, the very best Diavolo could wish for is Incon. Two thought based wins, in favor of Rohan due to his actually winning instantly.

I was quite confused as to how Diavolo won, of all things.
 
What is this bullshit?

Let's clear some things up. Precog is passive. As long as he has the stand summoned, he can see into the future. Time Erasure is instant. Rohan has to point to use Heaven's Door. There is a small chance Rohan can get a win by drawing Heaven's Door on himself in a way that Diavolo will see when he tries to attack him, but other than that there isn't much he could do.

For these reasons, I vote for Diavolo
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
What is this bullshit?
Let's clear some things up. Precog is passive. As long as he has the stand summoned, he can see into the future. Time Erasure is instant. Rohan has to point to use Heaven's Door. There is a small chance Rohan can get a win by drawing Heaven's Door on himself in a way that Diavolo will see when he tries to attack him, but other than that there isn't much he could do.

For these reasons, I vote for Diavolo
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Rohan doesn't have to point, it's thought-based.

Also this match was already graced and added.

Diavolo has to both think about his precog (It takes at least a thought to think about what's going to happen in the future), then King Crimson. Rohan just needs to think once. Rohan thinks once, Diavolo thinks twice. Rohan wins instantly, Diavolo has to actually land a hit afterwards.
 
Heaven's Door still needs to travel. It is thought based but not instant. He was at close range in that scan

I may need to remake it then. Since this was created under misinformation

Diavolo is always looking into the future with his stand active so any time he needs to think is moot, since he does it in the past. King crimson is instant. Heaven's Door needs to travel, so even tho it is thought based it is not instant, especially since they will be starting at a distance. Diavolo landing a hit will be no problem due to precog and erased time
 
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