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Rayquaza vs Goku Redux

Goku vs. GokuRayquaza Black.

Me likey.

Following.
 
Wasn't the original made to prove something about haxless people and winning matches?

Regardless, following for the ensuring storm.
 
Delta Stream completely drained the primal powers of Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon, forcing them to return to their base forms.
 
King Vegeta who is weaker than Vegeta and Goku ( FROM SAYIAN SAGA ) was able to casually destroyed 3 planets with a wave of his hand. Goku wins no contest.
 
Shubham Sonsurkar said:
King Vegeta who is weaker than Vegeta and Goku ( FROM SAYIAN SAGA ) was able to casually destroyed 3 planets with a wave of his hand. Goku wins no contest.
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Yay for non-canon.

That is only for Toei, and they are 5-A
 
Probably. They both far upscale from their feats, but I'm pretty sure Raiquaza's is far superior to Goku's feat.

That, and he has, like, an advantage in everything else too.
 
@Shub Dude, he didn't said that Rayquaza win, but the King vegeta's feat is Non Canon, this match use Manga goku which is Casually 5-B, nothing les, nothing more
 
With the little but meaningfull hax? Stats reduction, energy absorption, fear manipulation should be useful.
 
The Causality said:
Dude, he didn't said that Rayquaza win, but the King vegeta's feat is Non Canon, this match use Manga goku which is Casually 5-B, nothing les, nothing more
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Bit late of a comment to mine.

Tough, I'm not sure, so I am not voting either. Just saying that the dragon seems to have an advaantage.
 
The Causality said:
@Shub Dude, he didn't said that Rayquaza win, but the King vegeta's feat is Non Canon, this match use Manga goku which is Casually 5-B, nothing les, nothing more
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They still show feat of destroying planets and I mean in canon version
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Bit late of a comment to mine.

Tough, I'm not sure, so I am not voting either. Just saying that the dragon seems to have an advaantage.
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Sorry, my reaction speed is only MHS+
 
Not in the manga as far as I remember. So unless it was in the new movie, it is just Toei, which has it's own profile.
 
70 Zettatons was Raditz Saga Piccolo.

Saiyan Saga Goku is so far above that he stomps like a dozen times over not to mention he has Kaio-Ken - increasing his strength even more.
 
Yeah but, Rayquaza also upscales, what with the difference in megaevolutions and normal attacks.

That, and he can reduce the power back down, and he has far better versatility.
 
How severe is his upscaling?

How often does he use his Stats Reduction?

How effective is it?

And what do you mean by versatility? Most of Rayquaza's abilities are elemental, and unless his elemental abilities have some very unique power to them, it's not going to be much help.
 
No expert, Cal should be asked for that. I know the chain is somewhat long tough.

See above.

Pretty effective, I'm not sure how to quantify it in a non-game mechanic way.

He can litirally shout with enough force to hurt fellow 5-Bs, Speed Amp to heck and back, aoe with several things, electrify him and use ice to slow him.
 
The real cal howard said:
Yes. Rayquaza's meteor bust came out to 419.8 ZT.
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Neat. So there's like a six times difference between Pre-Training Saiyan Saga Piccolo and Rayquaza?


Well for Goku's scaling:

Piccolo did a 70 Zettaton Moon feat, Goku scales as he is comparable in strength.

Raditz causally stomped both Goku and Piccolo working together.

A Saibamen is equivalent to Raditz.

Krillin had an attack that one-shot four Saibamen at the same time. Piccolo should scale to this, if not be above it as it was made pretty clear that he was the strongest Z-Fighter against the Saiyans - excluding an angry Gohan. Not to mention he casually blitzed and stomped a Saibamen himself.

Nappa was able to take on all the Z-Fighters at the same time without giving it his full effort.

Nappa's full effort was comparable, but still inferior to base Post-King Kai Training Goku.

Goku can multiply his power, speed, durability, reactions, et cetera with Kaio-Ken.


So...

Kaio-Ken x4 Goku > Kaio-Ken x3 Goku > Kaio-Ken x2 Goku > Base Post-Training Goku >= Full-Power Nappa > Causal Nappa >>> All Z-Fighters > Piccolo >= Krillin > 4 Saibamen > 1 Saibamen = Raditz >>> Raditz Saga Goku >= Raditz Saga Piccolo = 70 ZT

I'd probably say they have similar levels of strength, if not give the advantage to Goku.


Although the stats reduction sounds like it could be a game changer, can I ask how it works?
 
Scary Face halves the speed of the affected. That's his only stat reduction move though.
 
The real cal howard said:
Scary Face halves the speed of the affected. That's his only stat reduction move though.
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Didn't he have the ice breath attack too?
 
The real cal howard said:
Scary Face halves the speed of the affected. That's his only stat reduction move though.
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Oh.

Any other abilities that should be noted?
 
  • Scary Face: Rayquaza makes a scary face at the opponent to lower their speed.
What the ****? Is this really a thing?
 
Dragon Dance is Rayquaza's Kaio Ken without any of the drawbacks. But that's statistics amplification instead of statistics reduction.
 
Nomad also boosts Rayquaza's attack depending on how much Rayquaza moves.
 
Not only Dragon Dance and Nomad, but Ancient Power. Ancient Power is not a definite but it's still an attack with the chance to raise ALL of Rayquaza's stats..

Extreme Speed also acts as temporary Speed Amp as well as an attack.
 
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