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Kaguya Ōtsutsuki Abilities Removal
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Do you have evidence that it doesn't grant these abilities?.
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Rinne sharingan> rinnegan essentially. We have already seen Kaguya use abilities similar to Almighty Push
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OP completely ignores that Sasuke also has Rinne Sharingan and has used at least two of the six paths, which means that the Rinne Sharingan does give those abilities and Kaguya just never used them. Same way Madara never used most of his Rinnegan abilities, even though he could have.
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I don't recall it saying she could or couldn't use them but given the Path abilities come from Rinnegan and the Rinnegan is a part of the Rinne Sharingan I don't see why we would assume otherwise.
Which is why I asked does the OP have evidence that suggests it doesn't grant these abilities. I believe Kaguya used Almighty Push like Astral King said but I don't remember in which part it takes place. Y'all gonna half to what for more knowledgeable members to see this thread.
I don't recall it saying she could or couldn't use them but given the Path abilities come from Rinnegan and the Rinnegan is a part of the Rinne Sharingan I don't see why we would assume otherwise.
Which is why I asked does the OP have evidence that suggests it doesn't grant these abilities. I believe Kaguya used Almighty Push like Astral King said but I don't remember in which part it takes place. Y'all gonna half to what for more knowledgeable members to see this thread.
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Sasuke doesn't have the Rinne Sharingan, just the regular rinnegan.SnowFlame556 said:
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Sasuke doesn't have the Rinne Sharingan, just the regular rinnegan.
His Rinnegan has the same tomoes in the eye that the Rinne Sharigan has so I don't see how the aren't the same thing when they look identical.
His Rinnegan has the same tomoes in the eye that the Rinne Sharigan has so I don't see how the aren't the same thing when they look identical.
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Sasuke simply has the Rinnegan and just happens to have a tomoe pattern in it. It allows him use of the Paths and Space-Time jutsu.
The Rinne Sharingan is a third eye that manifests on the forehead as seen with Madara and Kaguya, the only people to actually manifest it. Kaguya has never used any of the Paths. At all. In addition, the Rinne Sharingan has only ever been used to cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi and has never been mentioned to have any other special properties.
Also, this brings up something else. Even if we continue with the assumption that Kaguya's Rinne Sharingan has all the abilities of the Rinnegan, she's never used them or displayed them. As such, she'd be like Sasuke who inherited Itachi's eyes and would need a note on her page along the lines of:
Note: Due to Kaguya having the Rinne Sharingan, she should be able to replicate all of the Rinnegan abilities. However, Kaguya has not shown any of these in combat, so it must be noted in versus matches that she is allowed to use these powers. Otherwise they are unusable.
The Rinne Sharingan is a third eye that manifests on the forehead as seen with Madara and Kaguya, the only people to actually manifest it. Kaguya has never used any of the Paths. At all. In addition, the Rinne Sharingan has only ever been used to cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi and has never been mentioned to have any other special properties.
Also, this brings up something else. Even if we continue with the assumption that Kaguya's Rinne Sharingan has all the abilities of the Rinnegan, she's never used them or displayed them. As such, she'd be like Sasuke who inherited Itachi's eyes and would need a note on her page along the lines of:
Note: Due to Kaguya having the Rinne Sharingan, she should be able to replicate all of the Rinnegan abilities. However, Kaguya has not shown any of these in combat, so it must be noted in versus matches that she is allowed to use these powers. Otherwise they are unusable.
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The Sharinga (ÕåÖÞ╝¬þ£╝, Literally meaning: Copy Wheel Eye)
The Rinnega (Þ╝¬Õ╗╗þ£╝, Literally meaning: Saß╣âs─üra Eye)
The Rinne Sharinga (Þ╝¬Õ╗╗ÕåÖÞ╝¬þ£╝, Literally meaning: Saß╣âs─üra Copy Wheel Eye)
sure its not enough but
rinnegan and sharingan powers originated from Rinne sharingan
1.sasuke said IT(Infinite Tsukuyomi) is rinnegan jutsu
2.she use preta path/absorption jutsu
3.and used Deva Path/ repulsive force against naruto 1000 clone
u want Arthur to make his characters say jutsu's name every time a new characters come?
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The Rinnega (Þ╝¬Õ╗╗þ£╝, Literally meaning: Saß╣âs─üra Eye)
The Rinne Sharinga (Þ╝¬Õ╗╗ÕåÖÞ╝¬þ£╝, Literally meaning: Saß╣âs─üra Copy Wheel Eye)
sure its not enough but
rinnegan and sharingan powers originated from Rinne sharingan
1.sasuke said IT(Infinite Tsukuyomi) is rinnegan jutsu
2.she use preta path/absorption jutsu
3.and used Deva Path/ repulsive force against naruto 1000 clone
u want Arthur to make his characters say jutsu's name every time a new characters come?
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Just want to note that the burden of evidence should be on the people trying to prove that the Rinne Sharingan does grant full Rinnegan abilities.
So this: "Do you have evidence that it doesn't grant these abilities?" doesn't really mean anything.
As far as I know Kaguya has never used one of the Paths in the manga.
So this: "Do you have evidence that it doesn't grant these abilities?" doesn't really mean anything.
As far as I know Kaguya has never used one of the Paths in the manga.
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2.she use preta path/absorption jutsuDamage3245 said:
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Correct me if I'm wrong but that doesn't show her absorbing it, does it? It just looks like it doesn't affect her.
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I did find this. Bottom right panel.Damage3245 said:
So, 1 out of 6?
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She can absorb chakra and absorb jutsu. Possibly a unique trait of hers or possibly a result of having that Path.
Not proof enough by itself that she has all of them.
Not proof enough by itself that she has all of them.
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hmm nitpicking
so i should just say the same thing to u someone who fail to show any evidence why we should remove rennagan from her
other-then saying not enough
Just want to note that the burden of evidence should be on the people trying to prove that the Rinne Sharingan does not grant full Rinnegan abilities.
so i should just say the same thing to u someone who fail to show any evidence why we should remove rennagan from her
other-then saying not enough
Just want to note that the burden of evidence should be on the people trying to prove that the Rinne Sharingan does not grant full Rinnegan abilities.
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> Just want to note that the burden of evidence should be on the people trying to prove that the Rinne Sharingan does not grant full Rinnegan abilities.
Isn't the claim that 'Kaguya has the Rinne Sharingan which gives her full Rinnegan abilities'?
That is what needs to be proved; not other people proving that she doesn't have them.
What does the databook claim about the Rinne Sharingan?
Isn't the claim that 'Kaguya has the Rinne Sharingan which gives her full Rinnegan abilities'?
That is what needs to be proved; not other people proving that she doesn't have them.
What does the databook claim about the Rinne Sharingan?
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Right now, we're basically assuming she has those abilities because we're assuming that her third eye is called the Rinne Sharingan, basically. Despite the fact that she never showed those capabilities and that the Six Paths techniques are attributed to her son.
Saying we have to prove that she doesn't have them, when she's never actually shown using them, is a little weird to say the least. There needs to be proof that she does. Like how Sasuke proved he could tap into the Six Paths.
Saying we have to prove that she doesn't have them, when she's never actually shown using them, is a little weird to say the least. There needs to be proof that she does. Like how Sasuke proved he could tap into the Six Paths.
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Isn't the claim that 'Kaguya has the Rinne Sharingan which gives her full Rinnegan abilities'?
sasuke nor madara ever used all of rinnagan power so remove them too
she use 2 of 6 path and sasuke calling IT is a rinnagan jutsu but u are nitpicking
if thats not enough then there is nothing i can do
sasuke nor madara ever used all of rinnagan power so remove them too
she use 2 of 6 path and sasuke calling IT is a rinnagan jutsu but u are nitpicking
if thats not enough then there is nothing i can do
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We're not nitpicking, we're calling out the fact that there isn't really that much evidence to justify what's on her profile.Omimi said:
At best, she's got evidence for Preta and that's debatable. Also, I'll repeat this again: even if you want to attribute the Paths to her, it has to be noted that she really hasn't used them and unless specified not usable in a debate..
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1.sasuke said IT(Infinite Tsukuyomi) is rinnegan jutsuTheC2 said:
2.she use preta path/absorption jutsu
3.and used Deva Path/ repulsive force against naruto 1000 clone
how is this assuming when we have some evidence
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1. That link doesn't have Sasuke saying anything.Omimi said:
2. That panel just shows her getting hit with Amaterasu...Bottom right panel. did you mean this one?
3. That doesn't have anything related Deva Path in.
If you're going to post evidence, get your links right, man.
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Correct me if I'm wrong with scans, by all means, BUT....
the Sharingan and Rinnegan were derived from Kaguya's third eye. Hagoromo inherited the powers of her third eye into his pair of eyes, while his brother Homura received the Byakugan/Tenseigan. Indra inherited the Sharingan's powers from Hagoromo.
Kaguya is also shown using Shinra Tensei in additional media, such as her appearance in Jump Force, where she uses Shinra Tensei to start off her ultimate attack. Everything seems to suggest and imply that Kaguya's third eye has all of the powers of the Rinnegan (and it's stated outright that the Rinne Sharingan possesses the powers of the Sharingan**) it would make zero sense considering the context of the Rinnegan's powers and its connection to the Ten Tails if Kaguya's third eye didn't also possess the abilities of the Six Paths, as that eye is the direct ancestor of the Rinnegan.
Madara and Obito both reinforce the idea that the Rinnegan is an absolute necessity to performing the Infinite Tsukuyomi, and controlling the Ten Tails. The Demonic Statue/Ten Tails' body itself could be summoned at will by any Rinnegan wielder. I don't understand why this is a debate.
the Sharingan and Rinnegan were derived from Kaguya's third eye. Hagoromo inherited the powers of her third eye into his pair of eyes, while his brother Homura received the Byakugan/Tenseigan. Indra inherited the Sharingan's powers from Hagoromo.
Kaguya is also shown using Shinra Tensei in additional media, such as her appearance in Jump Force, where she uses Shinra Tensei to start off her ultimate attack. Everything seems to suggest and imply that Kaguya's third eye has all of the powers of the Rinnegan (and it's stated outright that the Rinne Sharingan possesses the powers of the Sharingan**) it would make zero sense considering the context of the Rinnegan's powers and its connection to the Ten Tails if Kaguya's third eye didn't also possess the abilities of the Six Paths, as that eye is the direct ancestor of the Rinnegan.
Madara and Obito both reinforce the idea that the Rinnegan is an absolute necessity to performing the Infinite Tsukuyomi, and controlling the Ten Tails. The Demonic Statue/Ten Tails' body itself could be summoned at will by any Rinnegan wielder. I don't understand why this is a debate.
- here's a scan for proof:
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If you're going to post evidence, get your links right, man.
i mixed up the image sry
1. That link doesn't have Sasuke saying anything.
3.That doesn't have anything related Deva Path i
MrKerf said I'm almost 100% sure that it was Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack
but as u can see there is no chakra arm here
this look similer to getting hit by shockwave or repulsive force/tk
2. That panel just shows her getting hit with Amaterasu...Bottom right panel. did you mean this one?
it shows that her getting hit with Amaterasu and she absorb it no?
i mixed up the image sry
1. That link doesn't have Sasuke saying anything.
3.That doesn't have anything related Deva Path i
MrKerf said I'm almost 100% sure that it was Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack
but as u can see there is no chakra arm here
this look similer to getting hit by shockwave or repulsive force/tk
2. That panel just shows her getting hit with Amaterasu...Bottom right panel. did you mean this one?
it shows that her getting hit with Amaterasu and she absorb it no?
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In that scan, she's clearly not even using her hair. The flames hit her full on in the front, and she simply reaches her hand up, and then the flames are absorbed into her body. This is clearly Preta Path absorption, nothing indicates she's absorbing chakra with hair.MrKerf said:
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hagoromo showed kaguya's 3rd eye to both naruto and sasuke and talk about her
so why are u saying sasuke dont know about her 3rd eye and never saw it b4
Well, one way or another, she can absorb chakra with her hair, so I it must be different from Rinnegan ability.
so why are u saying sasuke dont know about her 3rd eye and never saw it b4
Well, one way or another, she can absorb chakra with her hair, so I it must be different from Rinnegan ability.
- what where did bold came from
- so where is chakra arms
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In that scan, she's clearly not even using her hair. The flames hit her full on in the front, and she simply reaches her hand up, and then the flames are absorbed into her body. This is clearly Preta Path absorption, nothing indicates she's absorbing chakra with hair.A Stoned Orc said:
Yeah, I know that she isn't using her hair. What I meant, is that she is using different technique. It may be her Kekei Mora, or smt, cause she is the "mother of chakra".
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Yeah, Chakra Absorption isn't exclusive to the Preta Path. It is impossible to say she is 'clearly' using Preta Path absorption, especially since it looks visually different. Preta Path absorption normally appears to be like an invisible forcefield that surrounds the user and absorbs incoming jutsu. Look at the Preta Path absorbing the Rasengan or Madara absorbing the laser jutsu.
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