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Kaguya Ōtsutsuki Abilities Removal
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The rinne sharingan as per its name is both a rinnengan and sharingan and she uses almighty push, thread over, there should be no more debate.
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I see more an dmore people bring up their own head canon for abilities and Naruto and literally state things against what is stated in the manga like it is fact, it is getting really annoying.
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There is nothing there, this is just reaching.
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Yeah they have to make up their own reasons why that is not the case. Apparently they know more than the characters in universe.Omimi said:
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it's based on assumption not huge amounts of feats or statements
however it's an extremely logical assumption, The Rinnegan is an advanced version and the predecessor to the Sharingan, the Rinnegan has literally all of the innate Sharingan abilities and more, with the exception of specific abilities that are exclusive to certain users. now the Rinne Sharingan is to the Rinnegan what the Rinnegan was to the original Sharingan, the original eye "power" which every other eye power has deviated from including the Byakugan. for us to assume that the Rinne Sharingan doesn't possess the basic innate abilities that's granted by its inferior deluded version would be us assuming that the RinneSharingan is somehow an exception to a consistent pre-established chain of evolution that has consistently shown us that their predecessors are capable of the same stuff but more, I think this would lead to far more assumptions and mental gymnastics, I think sometimes a logical assumption is the best one.
however it's an extremely logical assumption, The Rinnegan is an advanced version and the predecessor to the Sharingan, the Rinnegan has literally all of the innate Sharingan abilities and more, with the exception of specific abilities that are exclusive to certain users. now the Rinne Sharingan is to the Rinnegan what the Rinnegan was to the original Sharingan, the original eye "power" which every other eye power has deviated from including the Byakugan. for us to assume that the Rinne Sharingan doesn't possess the basic innate abilities that's granted by its inferior deluded version would be us assuming that the RinneSharingan is somehow an exception to a consistent pre-established chain of evolution that has consistently shown us that their predecessors are capable of the same stuff but more, I think this would lead to far more assumptions and mental gymnastics, I think sometimes a logical assumption is the best one.
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> now the Rinne Sharingan is to the Rinnegan what the Rinnegan was to the original Sharingan
The Sharingan is shown evolving into the Rinnegan.
The Rinnegan is not shown evolving into the Rinne Sharingan.
The Sharingan is shown evolving into the Rinnegan.
The Rinnegan is not shown evolving into the Rinne Sharingan.
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The rinnengan is literally derived fromthe rinnesharingan. The rinenngan is a downgraded rinnesharingan it is in the name man it does ot take a genius to find out. And Sasuke states that IT is a rinnengan jutsu and she uses almighty push as well as the absorption ability.
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yes it does, when it contact with Hogoromo's chakra the same chakra thats inside Kaguya, Sasuke's Rinnegan becomes a Rinne SharinganDamage3245 said:
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The only ones with the Rinne Sharingan are the Ten-Tails, Kaguya and Madara.
Sasuke just has a Rinnegan.
The Rinne Sharingan has 9 tomoe in it. Sasuke's Rinnegan only has 6 tomoe.
Sasuke just has a Rinnegan.
The Rinne Sharingan has 9 tomoe in it. Sasuke's Rinnegan only has 6 tomoe.
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you get a 1 tomoe Sharingan and you get a 3 tomoe sharingan, they both still sharingan, the difference between Sasuke's and Kaguya's is literally just the color and it's placement. also Madara's Rinne Sharingan also only had 6 tomoe.
I'm not sure where you're getting the " only ones with the Rinne Sharingan are the Ten-Tails, Kaguya, and Madara." from
I'm not sure where you're getting the " only ones with the Rinne Sharingan are the Ten-Tails, Kaguya, and Madara." from
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A little nitpick but Madara' rinne sharingan had the 9 tomoe, Obito is the one who absorbed the shinju when he had 6 tomoe.
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Your right, Madara had six in one panel but i assume that was a an error.
my point still stands as the Juubi has only six tomoe aswell
my point still stands as the Juubi has only six tomoe aswell
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When the Juubi made its transition back to its original form as the Shinju, it went back to having nine tomoe.
Anyway - I haven't seen any official source state that Kaguya can use any of the Paths or other Rinnegan abilities. Is there anything the databook that might support it?
Because right now I don't think she ever clearly did anything with the Rinne Sharingan other than cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi and transport them through dimensions.
Also, the Infinite Tsukuyomi is just a Rinnegan Genjutsu, then why did Madara need to grow his own Rinne Sharingan to cast it? He had two Rinnegan already after all.
Anyway - I haven't seen any official source state that Kaguya can use any of the Paths or other Rinnegan abilities. Is there anything the databook that might support it?
Because right now I don't think she ever clearly did anything with the Rinne Sharingan other than cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi and transport them through dimensions.
Also, the Infinite Tsukuyomi is just a Rinnegan Genjutsu, then why did Madara need to grow his own Rinne Sharingan to cast it? He had two Rinnegan already after all.
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The rinnesharingan is the only one that can reflect it off the moon, Madara cast the IT on Obito as a kid without the rinnesharingan.
She used almight push as has been shown above.
And again there is not reason to believe that the more powerful version of an occular jutsu does not have the lesser version's abilities.
She used almight push as has been shown above.
And again there is not reason to believe that the more powerful version of an occular jutsu does not have the lesser version's abilities.
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> Madara cast the IT on Obito as a kid without the rinnesharingan.
Since Madara only had a Sharingan, he presumably only used a regular Genjutsu on Obito. Not the IT.
> She used almight push as has been shown above.
It isn't explicitly stated as such. This might just sound like me nitpicking but I prefer concrete proof in matters like this.
> And again there is not reason to believe that the more powerful version of an occular jutsu does not have the lesser version's abilities.
Aside from the lack of confirmation for it, and that it has never been stated to grant all the powers of the Rinnegan.
Since Madara only had a Sharingan, he presumably only used a regular Genjutsu on Obito. Not the IT.
> She used almight push as has been shown above.
It isn't explicitly stated as such. This might just sound like me nitpicking but I prefer concrete proof in matters like this.
> And again there is not reason to believe that the more powerful version of an occular jutsu does not have the lesser version's abilities.
Aside from the lack of confirmation for it, and that it has never been stated to grant all the powers of the Rinnegan.
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When the Juubi made its transition back to its original form as the Shinju, it went back to having nine tomoe.
not seeing the point, it just means that a Rinne Sharingan can have both 9 and 6 (Likely depending on how many of the tailed beast chakra it has)
Sasuke is unaffected by the light and is capable of dispelling the IT and it's made clear to us through out the story only Sasuke can do this, only he can dispell a Jutsu that's exclusive to the Rinnesharingan.
not seeing the point, it just means that a Rinne Sharingan can have both 9 and 6 (Likely depending on how many of the tailed beast chakra it has)
Sasuke is unaffected by the light and is capable of dispelling the IT and it's made clear to us through out the story only Sasuke can do this, only he can dispell a Jutsu that's exclusive to the Rinnesharingan.
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Sasuke in the databook and the manga was only stated as having the Rinnegan, not the Rinne Sharingan, correct?
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Wrong, he specifically told Obito that, it was the IT but it was empty with nothing he had put in it yet, but yiou are right that it was a sharingan.Damage3245 said:
It does not need to be it is obvious, we have seen its effects multiple times and they dont need to spell it out. And yes it is use nitpicking.
It does not need to be stated it is another obvious thing that you are indeed nitpicking.
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Aside from the lack of confirmation for it, and that it has never been stated to grant all the powers of the Rinnegan.
abductive reasoning
abductive reasoning
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Sorry, but I don't see it as being as obvious as you do.
If the majority of people want to keep those abilities on her profile, that's fine, I just don't think it is based on solid, confirmed information.
If the majority of people want to keep those abilities on her profile, that's fine, I just don't think it is based on solid, confirmed information.
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And I disagree, the info we do have is solid and confirmed enough.
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=abductive reasoning=
why is it so huge
why is it so huge
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sasuke said its rinnagan so it enough evidenceOmimi said:sure Chakra Absorption isn't exclusive to the Preta Path but it is one of rinnegan jutsu
and sasuke said IT is rinnagan Jutsu
so try to prove sasuke/manga wrong and this image is enough to close this thread
post some evidence other then assuming and giving your opinion
manga character statemant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fans head canon
just close this smh...................
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Thats fineDamage3245 said:
agree to disagree
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