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It's a Bird.. It's a Plane.. It's Hax as all Hell!
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Pre-Crisis Superman at his peak vs Golden Frieza
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It's a Bird.. It's a Plane.. It's Hax as all Hell!
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No.MafiaFox said:
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"At his peak"
As in, using his Multi-Galaxy stats. That being the case, I'm fairly certain that Superman is too fast and too hax for Frieza to properly contend with, so I'd say he wins.
As in, using his Multi-Galaxy stats. That being the case, I'm fairly certain that Superman is too fast and too hax for Frieza to properly contend with, so I'd say he wins.
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Superman blitzes, and follows up with heat vision to "Superman vs Goku 2" Frieza. Heck, if this guy can incon Beerus, he can surely take on Golden Frieza. If all else fails, BFR him to another universe.
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How PC Sups can defeat Freiza: 1: Phantom zone projector. 2: Kiss him super fast with his hypnotic kiss and make him explode himself. 3: Speed up to his infinite speed and fly into Freiza. 4: Travel back in time and stomp Freiza when Freiza fought Goku. 5: Jucie up himself with various super thingies which gave Lois Lane and Lana Lang superpowers on diffrent occasions.
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Pre-Crisis Supes: multi-galaxy
Golden Frieza: multi-galaxy+
Just saying. Oh, and stalemate.
Golden Frieza: multi-galaxy+
Just saying. Oh, and stalemate.
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KorpiklaaniVodka said:
- pre crisis supes at his peak-universe+
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5 for Supes. 0 for Frieza. 1 for inconclusive.
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PC Superman can accelerate to infinite speed, just saying
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Frieza wins I mean he has good hax but I dont think it would get around Friezas durabiltiy and attack potency
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Gotta have two more for Supes and he can get this victory. Putting that out there....just putting that out there....
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All of Frieza's stats will become irrelevant when Superman touches infinite speedCanis Latrans2 said:
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But they both have the same tier. Plus, even if otherwise, hax + speed combo > DC anyday. Kinda why Flash beats all of Dragon Ball in a zeptosecond.Canis Latrans2 said:
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Supes wins via massive speed advantage and haxs(correct me if i am wrong).
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Aaand that's seven. Cross, if you'd please?
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Ehhh....nah, not right now....in school so i can't add it atm...
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Ok. I understand. I've got a lab to do anyway so I feel ya. I'll put it under the requests then.
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Superman has to acclerate and golden frieza is comparable to beerus who is even with champa who did thishttp://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=33741 at least 62 quadrillon times the speed of Light!Faisal Shourov said:
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That's not canon yet, and Supes doesn't have to accelerate, seeing how PC Supes>PC Flash. Also, I'm pretty sure Supe's speed is still greater than that.Canis Latrans2 said:
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Cal is right. As that's only a manga feat and since the anime version of the current Dragon Ball takes precidence in the canon department (basically anime Super is canon rather than manga Super being that), we don't put it for here....unless it appears in the anime already and someone makes a calc of that, perhaps...
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Difference between infinity to quadrllion is the same as infinity to 1. We don't use the outdated Daizenshu map for DB, we use this one. So that calc is invalid
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Superman is very inconsistent in speed and all physical aspects :/
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Canonicity isn't the issue, the very premise of the calc is wrong. They used daizenshuu map which is out of scale and retconned by DBSCrossverseCrisis said:
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Oh then nvrmind then. *shrugs*Faisal Shourov said:
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That is not a map though we dont know that its just a bubble that whis is showing with a galaxy from universe 7 we have no proof that that is the super mapFaisal Shourov said:Difference between infinity to quadrllion is the same as infinity to 1. We don't use the outdated Daizenshu map for DB, we use this one. So that calc is invalid
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That's with the Sword of Superman, which isn't stated so we're not using it. Supes would shitstomp with the sword.KazarianFahs said:
Also, I don't think Frieza can be affected by that, at least via powerscaling.
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Yes we do, it was shown twice in ep 28 and 29. Clearly labelled Universe 7. Go watch the episodes againCanis Latrans2 said:
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KorpiklaaniVodka said:
yea my bad,i shouldn't really be on the internet after the condition i was in yesterday,made a fool outta myself on multiple websites XD,i hate myself.regarding the battle they have similar DP and AP but i still think supes takes this due to superior hax and likely speed.
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Yes we do, it was shown twice in ep 28 and 29. Clearly labelled Universe 7. Go watch the episodes againFaisal Shourov said:
I know but we dont know if its a map its more likely just a galaxy from universe 7
and we accept kai as cannon right? The map appears in kai here
Dragonball kai universe map
so yeah the map is canon
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^No we don't accept Kai as canon. We only use the map in DBS.
The map has been shown several times in case you missed
The map has been shown several times in case you missed
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Honestly Supermans speed is overrated, he can only achieve it through travel and acceleration as shown and stated many times both in pre-crisis and post crisis era, his combat speed is way lower consistently. He doesn't really blitz in combat here. Also infinite speed never happens, bonds of infinity is unquantifiable, just that he crosses multiple universes over acceleration through multiple pages, where he starts at or below light speed btw as he has to accelerate past it. The best quantifiable combat speed feat ive seen is him throwing a spaceship across a galaxy in the time it takes a few aliens to wake up from being knocked out onboard, which is likely billions of times ftl if we say it took a few minutes to wake up like t would for most people, Frieza is easily able to move that fast or more by scaling.
Of course Frieza has superior fire power and durability, as well as hand to hand skill, so I'd give it to him.
Of course Frieza has superior fire power and durability, as well as hand to hand skill, so I'd give it to him.
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You know imma just close this.
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