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Showa Godzilla Upgrades

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The first feat scales only to Ghidorah as its an outlier for the majority of the verse which had up until that point been consistently harmed and killed by 7-C attacks

Manda doesnt scale to anyone

The Ghidorah feat is unquantifiable as surface wiping over time, let alone off screen, is unuseable as a feat

Zone fighter is non-canon to the showa timeline and even if we consider it canon it would be an even bigger outlier
 
Since always? Its a non-canon ultraman clone with godzilla characters as a crossover. Godzilla can likely get a Zone-Fighters profile but its not canon to the movies
 
You kinda need to show proof that it is my guy, TV shows are considered non-canon to a movie series unless its explicitly stated or shown that they are
 
On the topic of Ghidrah's outlier:

" King Ghidorah's speed that it could travel in space, which is mach 400, is cited in the Godzilla Dictionary: New Edition (ISBN: 4773087250) "

The kinetic energy is 67.49 Megatons of TNT

Further factoring the meteor weight, 1.768 Gigatons of TNT

From Kiryus' thread, I suspect this is the same book that mentions Zone Fighter as an official Toho appearance for King Ghidorah
 
@Kiryu knows a lot about Godzilla I invite @Weekly to take into account the information, specially the official Toho appearances of Godzilla, Gigan and KG.
 
I'm a girl dude.

Second we all respect you because of that, you know a lot about battle stuff, but none here knows EVERYTHING about Godzilla you and me included. At the end, there will be Zone Fighter profiles or keys in this wiki so I think is not necesary turn the characters that are the SAME into different profiles.
 
Why? Both Gokus are totally different while in Showa Era and Zone Fighter the hax is the same, the abilities are the same, the story is the same.

Gigan died in the show, so he didn't appeared anymore in any Showa era film after Zone Fighter.
 
Except theyre not, theyre the same character in every aspect except one is the canon show and one is the non-canon movies.

Gigan didnt die in the movies and is never acknowledged as dying
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Zone fighter can get a new profile that im fine with but merging canon Godzilla with Zone fighter is like merging Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z) with Son Goku (Toei)
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Toho is heavily involved in Zone Fighter.

"Zone Fighter boasted some of the top names Toho had to offer in the genre for its production, including directors Ishiro Honda, who directed the bulk of the episodes, and Jun Fukuda. The show also featured a rather modest budget with special effect work by Koichi Kawakita and Teruyoshi Nakano. "

Making a separate profile for a Toho filmed production is redundant.

Furthermore Showa Godzilla has only one key, whereas Goku has quite a few.
 
@Weekly youre not listening, @Kiryu explained it to you already.

ZF events happened in the middle of Godzilla vs Megalon and Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla. The death of Gigan is NO contradiction with the movies.

The book of @Kiryu has bios of the 3 main kaiju and Zone Fighter is one of their canon appearances.
 
Yes. Zone Fighter actually fits in the series, as it justifies Gigan never coming back because of his death in the battle against Goji and ZF, as well as King Ghidorah flying away to return in 1999 in DaM.
 
Kepekley23 said:
Those mountains you rate as 3000m are super small hills. There are trees right beside them that are plainly visible.
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Chalk it up to bad fx. Really bad fx. CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT.

The earlier scans shows they are looking down at a mountain range. No trees visible there.
 
The visuals are the only thing that exist to support this feat and the earlier scans aclearly show that they are looking down a valley. This is clearly not a proper 4-digit mountain, or else that view wouldn't be possible. Also, are those white structures buildings next to the grassy mountain? If so it proves the point even further.

And this is a hill. If it were a 3000m high mountain this zoom view would be extremely hard with the perspective of the cable lines.

This image actually proves they are in a valley-like area. The small hills in the background of those researcher guys begin to slope upwards with just a few meters of visible height.
 
First you say small mountain because the trees are visible. THEN YOU SAY GRASSY HILLS? BECAUSE they AREN"T visible?

Make up your mind you obvious downplaying hypocrite.

There's plainly shadow blobs everywhere on these "hills" which means the trees ARENT visible.

WHY? because the mountains are BIG.
 
> First you say small mountain because the trees aren't visible.

Me: "There are trees right beside them that are plainly visible."

?

> THEN YOU SAY GRASSY HILLS? BECAUSE they AREN"T visible?

You have yet to provide proof they are the same mountains destroyed in the feat. I am just believing your word that the explosion expanded to be bigger than those two ultra tiny hills that you rated as 3000m and to engulf those less-tiny hills, although I definitely don't buy it now.
 
You know what I meant. Nitpicker.

They are looking down a valley at mountains with TREES NOT DRAWN INDIVIDUALLY.

These are trees yes?

https://i.imgur.com/pieoXy3.png

We don't see the extent that the mountain dwarfs the building area. Plus there are people there so they are looking FURTHER than that area. Such as the trees posted above ^


You are arguing against what is now basically a standard assumption. I could pull up a scan from Naruto and say Juubidama doesn't exceed 10 km because it barely destroyed half a city.
 
Small hills are destroyed all the time with little consequence. This is above and beyond anything a kaiju could muster.

The implication of a PS73 bomb going off is there goes Tokyo.

The Comet K getting close to Earth's atmosphere causes a catastrophic event if the bomb is anywhere near a city.

Plus using the show's timeframes the bomb gets 100+ Gigatons scaling anyway for sending a Comet away at subrelativistic speeds.

I made this as an attempt to be reasonable about Comet K but now it seems I should just repost the feat as it was shown. Relativistic timeframes.
 
> They are looking down a valley at mountains with TREES NOT DRAWN INDIVIDUALLY.

Nothing proves the vegetation around that shot you linked is trees. Grass mountains are ofte mostly covered by small, less-than-a-meter weeds and other plants, yet those weeds are still visible covering the mountains from afar due to how widespread they are in its surface.

> We don't see the extent that the mountain dwarfs the building area. Plus there are people there so they are looking FURTHER than that area. Such as the trees posted above ^

We can, however, make reasonable assumptions for the size of the buildings and angsize the distance between the screen and them, which will probably result in a double digit number and thus prove that the view is completely impossible if the mountains are 3,000m tall

And you have yet to post scans of the explosion engulfing that area.

> You are arguing against what is now basically a standard assumption. I could pull up a scan from Naruto and say Juubidama doesn't exceed 10 km because it barely destroyed half a city.

False equivalence, the Juubidama has several different shots where it plainly exceeds 10km, the scans you have shown are all consistently against your assumption that it's 3km tall.
 
Nothing proves its trees, nothing proves its not trees. Its shaped like a generic mountain and you have standard assumptions.

Theres no burden of proof for a standard assumption of a feat that is already Island level regardless of visuals.
 
Wait, are you saying that you made the calc with the knowledge that the feat would wield higher anyway with additional assumptions and were trying to make it lower than shown? And after that option has become null, you decide to show the true value?
 
Kepekley23 said:
Wait, are you saying that you made the calc with the knowledge that the feat would wield higher anyway and were trying to make it lower?
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Correct. I took the calc down. Now I'm going to re-evaluate the timeframe and post it again.

Thank you for your time.
 
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