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Fate's Dream Waifu Fights The Gay Robot Smurf

>>> Range: Several Hundreds of Kilometers

Pelinal aims at some random projection of Beatrice in front of him which generally causes no effect whatsoever while being simultaneously Mind/Memory haxxed on a 25-D level, thus oneshotted.

Unless his resistances are comparable or high enough to nope that. Are they?
 
"He has Tier 0 hax"

Whathastheworldcometo.jpg

Actually his profile states Madness is 1-A.

...Directly speaking there's no way Beato (or mostly anyone for that matter) can compete with that head-on. *If* he needs to activate it otherwise it doesn't function he has a problem though, because EOS Beato's mind/memory stuff is passive.

Potency also doesn't equal range, so.
 
He doesn't have tier 0 hax it's unquantifiably high in 1-A. And he can activate Madness at will when he is angry and he is basically always angry.
 
This feels like a stomp either way.

He either gets passively mindhaxxed losing as soon as the match starts or he resists and instantly activates his madness, going 1-A and stomping.
 
Question

What are the proofs of Beatrice's mind hax being 25-D? Isn't she the only one from the 25th dimension in her series?
 
That just proves that the series treats dimensions as spatial dimensions

What proves her haxes, mind manip in particular, are 25-D?
 
Whut

Mostly everything Beatrice does is literally done through use of the 25th Dimension.

She outright states 25-D is the world she rules over.

And as consequence of her destruction the whole of reality went k-boom, said 25-D world included.

EOS Virginia uses hax to make recreation of it possible and individually she's <<< Beatrice.

The story states said power was pretty much the same gamble as using Beatrice's own method of power.

And Beatrice returns regardless of not being brought back even after said destruction of the whole verse.
 
Long story short: The most wrong of reasonings possible is when people start to act like the only way for a character of any tier to prove their hax is by fighting other characters of said tier trading literal blows like it's dragon ball even when their power clearly interacts with and affects constructs of said complexity.
 
FateAlbane said:
Long story short: The most wrong of reasonings possible is when people start to act like the only way for a character of any tier to prove their hax is by fighting other characters of said tier trading literal blows like it's dragon ball even when their power clearly interacts with and affects constructs of said complexity.
Beautifully worded
 
I don't want to get into a discussion now, but hax don't automatically scale directly from their source of power unless proven. This has been a thing here from years now
 
@RKGenki

Except in the case of Beatrice, she has complete authority over 25th dimension, not just being "her power source"
 
@RK That's both a false equivalency and an appeal to tradition in one.

One thing is a person getting absorbing "the energy from a star" to get some device to work, to power a city or a country to blow.

Another thing entirely is a person making use of an entire construct (not an aspect or part of it) as an extension of their own power and clearly producing effects of that scale or using said power to interact with similarly complex structures.

If at this point even this sort of reasoning isn't enough, soon the day will come when this wiki won't accept anyone's power as true unless they follow the formula I mentioned above of two characters of X tier punching each other with hax like it's Dragon Ball.

It's an extreme level of cherry and nitpicking that at this point is doing nothing but trying to invalidate legitimate powers.
 
What we've been doing for months is that hax don't scale directly to the dimensional tiering

What has been done for long is power not scaling directly from a higher dimensional power source

There's difference between the two
 
And both have been done for two months, ever since we had hax scaling to dimensional existence

There is a difference between the two, but both have never been done for "Years"
 
Same reason why all other smurfs aren't instantly given the tier their hax is at.

Or should Culexus assassins be 1-A because they have 1-A power null?
 
FateAlbane said:
Same reason why all other smurfs aren't instantly given the tier their hax is at.

Or should Culexus assassins be 1-A because they have 1-A power null?
Manipulating a higher dimensional construct scales to AP tho. It's different from non AP related hax
 
Zach can you please quit it with adding fuel to a fire?

Where does that even come from?
 
I'm not mad at Fate at anything, it just seems a bit weird to have someone who can literally manipulate a 25-D realm be only 5-A.
 
If manipulating higher dimensions means it scales to AP, then Yakou Madara should have 1-B AP for manipulating up to 24 dimensions...

Which isn't the case. Neither are Esperantos or Planetes who can manipulate higher dimensional energy and manifest it in the form of different abilities

Characters who are shown to interact with higher dimensions in someway doesn't mean they are automatically on that level of dimensionality, only Higher-Dimensional Manipulation
 
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