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Alright, so I just watched the Chara thing for the first time and to put it lightly, so many of the things involving him aren't justified. Also, if any of this changes with Deltarune...meh.
Also, even though Chara's canonically "they", I'll be using "he" for my ease. Sue me.
Omnipresence
Starting off with the easiest one. This is like, the most ridiculous one. The reasoning is "Exists as an abstract entity whose influence is everywhere in all possible timelines, as well as continuing to exist everywhere in the empty void after reality has been destroyed" I'll get to abstraction soon enough, but let me break this up bit by bit.
No, his influence never extends outside of the player, and it's never said to be a part of all possible timelines. He just owns your soul and is acausal so the reset doesn't affect him. The only thing that changes is literally the last few seconds of a pacifist run.
Chara is never stated to exist everywhere in the empty void either. He's literally just out of view. That requires so many less assumptions that it's silly that this was accepted for so long.
Mid Godly rege
It's made very clear that Chara never regenerated on his own volition. He never did anything like Flowey or Frisk where he refused to die. Chara actually did die. Chara himself outright says that this is reincarnation. Furthermore, Frisk needs to actually be there for Chara to re-manifest. If he could just come back willy-nilly, it would've happened well before Frisk fell into the underground.
Determinatio
My "human soul"...
My "determination"...
They were not mine, but YOURS.
Chara lacks determination on his own.
Type 7 immortality
Chara was resurrected and therefore wasn't undead.
Type 8 immortality.
This ties in with what I said about abstract existence earlier. It comes from this line:
"HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV. Every time a number increases, that feeling... That's me. 'Chara.'"
Chara being the embodiment of stats leveling up is so out of left field that it shouldn't be the first assumption period. It can quite easily mean that's Chara's influence affecting Frisk/The Player as they continue slaying. It could be hyperbole, as he calls himself the demon that comes when people call his name right before the line in another genocide run. Furthermore, how on earth would this even work? Chara was DEAD not that much long ago. How would he know? And if he was a concept, his original death shouldn't have happened.
Conclusion
Chara isn't nearly the unkillable monster that he's been portrayed as these past three years.
Also, even though Chara's canonically "they", I'll be using "he" for my ease. Sue me.
Omnipresence
Starting off with the easiest one. This is like, the most ridiculous one. The reasoning is "Exists as an abstract entity whose influence is everywhere in all possible timelines, as well as continuing to exist everywhere in the empty void after reality has been destroyed" I'll get to abstraction soon enough, but let me break this up bit by bit.
No, his influence never extends outside of the player, and it's never said to be a part of all possible timelines. He just owns your soul and is acausal so the reset doesn't affect him. The only thing that changes is literally the last few seconds of a pacifist run.
Chara is never stated to exist everywhere in the empty void either. He's literally just out of view. That requires so many less assumptions that it's silly that this was accepted for so long.
Mid Godly rege
It's made very clear that Chara never regenerated on his own volition. He never did anything like Flowey or Frisk where he refused to die. Chara actually did die. Chara himself outright says that this is reincarnation. Furthermore, Frisk needs to actually be there for Chara to re-manifest. If he could just come back willy-nilly, it would've happened well before Frisk fell into the underground.
Determinatio
My "human soul"...
My "determination"...
They were not mine, but YOURS.
Chara lacks determination on his own.
Type 7 immortality
Chara was resurrected and therefore wasn't undead.
Type 8 immortality.
This ties in with what I said about abstract existence earlier. It comes from this line:
"HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV. Every time a number increases, that feeling... That's me. 'Chara.'"
Chara being the embodiment of stats leveling up is so out of left field that it shouldn't be the first assumption period. It can quite easily mean that's Chara's influence affecting Frisk/The Player as they continue slaying. It could be hyperbole, as he calls himself the demon that comes when people call his name right before the line in another genocide run. Furthermore, how on earth would this even work? Chara was DEAD not that much long ago. How would he know? And if he was a concept, his original death shouldn't have happened.
Conclusion
Chara isn't nearly the unkillable monster that he's been portrayed as these past three years.