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Ditto vs Pandora's Actor
- Thread starter ExodusNexus
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Pandora's Actor turns into Ainz
Ditto turns into Ainz
After that I have no clue.
Ditto turns into Ainz
After that I have no clue.
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PA knows how to use Ainz's abilities, TGoALiD Grasp Heart GG
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Doesn't Ditto gain knowledge about how to use the abilities it gets?
Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use the movesets that's Ditto copies in game.
Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use the movesets that's Ditto copies in game.
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If Pandora's Actor doesn't transform he can just kill Ditto thanks to his overwhelming stat advantage. If Pandora's Actor doesn't transform and then Ditto transforms into PA's base form then PA can then become whoever he wants and stomp.
Even if PA transforms before Ditto becomes PA and Ditto gains PA's transformation, PA has better knowledge and experience with that transformation.
PA should stomp here; I don't think Ditto has any chance or winning or even forcing an incon.
Even if PA transforms before Ditto becomes PA and Ditto gains PA's transformation, PA has better knowledge and experience with that transformation.
PA should stomp here; I don't think Ditto has any chance or winning or even forcing an incon.
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Does Ditto also copy HM/TMs from the pokemon or is it just moves they can learn naturally? If its the latter this will be hilariously one sided if they are both Ainz.
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Ditto copies whatever the opponent is currently using.
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So better experience makes it a stomp? I'll have to keep that in mind.
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No way of winning makes it a stomp.
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Oh, okay.
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If he copies pandora himself, shouldn't ditto be able to simply transform into whoever he can tranform into?
He can copy the transform ability.
He can copy the transform ability.
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I mean, pretty sure that supreme beings have different ups and downs.
For exemple, pandora might transform into peperoncino while ditto goes for ainz or vice versa.
For exemple, pandora might transform into peperoncino while ditto goes for ainz or vice versa.
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Well, yes, but ditto does have the possibility of tranforming into someone pandora doesn't have an advantage against and get in some good hits.
Still unlikely though.
Still unlikely though.
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Pandora simply needs to turn into Ainz and he wins since none of the forms have gear which is what counters timestop. After that its just spamming instant death.
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PA stomping assumes PA turns into Ainz and Ditto turning into Ainz, but yeah, as many have said, Ditto could go for someone who can canonically no-sell Ainz in 1v1 combat such as Touch Me if it copies PA himself.
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Don't some of them have innate resistances?AnonymousBlank said:
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Ditto should have it's passive tranform skill, right?
And pretty sure that even if pandora is transformed, ditto should retain the ability to tranform into the others since pandora can do so even while transformed.
And pretty sure that even if pandora is transformed, ditto should retain the ability to tranform into the others since pandora can do so even while transformed.
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A well-travelled Ditto can turn into other Pokémon like Gengar if it wanted to.
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And all of ainzes companions should have some extent of resistance.
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We don't have any statements of time stop resistance being one. Ainz said counters/precautions against time stop is something all PVP Players do. If its innate you aren't taking a precaution.
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That too. Though the chances of that are even lower than the other stuff. Plus don't they only do taht if forced to go by memory?The real cal howard said:
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Pretty sure that they can gain them through level up, and it doesn't have to be a item.AnonymousBlank said:
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By that logic ditto could also time stop and pandora wouldn't hace innate resistance.
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Pandora would have time resistance anyway.
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Because he's a PvP Type Guardian like the rest.
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Maybe yeah, But unless its stated then we can't just assume someone among the 41 have it or Ainz would have mentioned it during one of his soliloquies.
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Yeah, just pointing out that anything pandora can ditto would be able to do too.
Inconclusive btw, too much up in the air.
Inconclusive btw, too much up in the air.
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Does Ditto copy items too? If so then incon, otherwise Pandora.
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I think so. Even if it doesn't, it would still be able to become gengar ir something, or alakazam and precog everything, or so much other stuff.
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I do not believe Ditto copies items, no.
I vote Pandora via far more intelligence and being built for battle. If Ditto turns into another Pokémon, chances are Pandora's Actor becomes a supreme being like Ainz and instant-kills them.
Although it would be nice if OP specified what Pokémon Ditto could turn into.
I vote Pandora via far more intelligence and being built for battle. If Ditto turns into another Pokémon, chances are Pandora's Actor becomes a supreme being like Ainz and instant-kills them.
Although it would be nice if OP specified what Pokémon Ditto could turn into.
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Doesn't Pandora also have precognition?
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Ditto can turn into any non-legendary, and I highly doubt that pandora's precog is anywhere near alakazams.
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Okay, so he shapeshifts into Alakazam first. I'll keep that in mind if I make another match like this.
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I doubt he can do that from the range they start from.
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He doesn't. For all we know he transform into a magickarp because that's the thing it remembers the best.ExodusNexus said:
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Grasp Heart GG then
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You completly ignored the point then? Ditto can litirally do anything any pokemon could here, and several could just precog and proceed to use pandora's transformations better than he could.AnonymousBlank said:
