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Weiss vs DIO

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You don't have to equalize speed since it's part 1 Dio, they're the same
 
Anyway.

AP: Weiss by a small margin but not enough to make a difference

Skill: Weiss pretty solidly, this Dio's best feat is pressure points but barring that he's a brawler.

Abilities: Dio's regen can't be overcome normally....Buuuuuuut Weiss's freezing can, and her freezing is capable of incapacitating High 8Cs for a solid time. In Dio's case, it's a solid incap option.

Dio can very easily freeze her, but due to his arrogance and her aura, she has a much better chance of freezing him solid then him outlasting with his freezing

I am done
 
She doesn't have ice dust here, I guess. It's in her High 8-C key. She still has fire, wind, lightning, gravity and that really mysterious cyan dust.
 
Dio wins via regen. He's cocky, but he knows when to take an opponent seriously. As well, he's an incredibly talented fighter and can think of strategies quickly- a lot of which Weiss won't see coming due to how weird they are. Dio, once he realized his opponent is strong, would play more carefully while trying to figure out what his opponent does, similar to how Dio was so cautious around Jotaro in part 3.

Dio, high-diff.
 
Weiss bypasses

Name those strategies or it's pointless to mention

Thirdly, going CQC is a death sentence and he loves to do that
 
Weiss risks being hit by one of Dio's freeze touches at close range as well. Dio's more willing to go for the kill in-character.
 
Also, OP said 8-C keys and forms, so that would restrict some of her Dust techniques, although OP should clarify.

In volumes 1-3, she's only high 8-C with her dust and a few other things, so it can be assumed he meant none of that.

As well, Dio has mind control and could likely use his vampiric vision rays to slice through ice tryin to freeze him.
 
That won't restrict it actually, as that's equipment not her tier

Besides Weiss can't beat his regen without ice so....
 
Then it's down to OP to clarify. But what does she have against his mind control?
 
Him literally never using in character

Like...Literally not once in any fight throughout the series let alone phantom blood.
 
He used it twice. It's highly unlikely he'd start with it, but if he saw none of his techniques working, at all, he would certainly resort to it, don't you agree?

If you have three levers to solve a problem, you use two and they don't work, and you're left with only one you normally don't use, wouldn't you use it? Now put that in a life-or-death scenario.
 
Nope, he only used it once, and it wasn't even in a fight, second time was the anime.

No I don't agree, multiple times he could have used it to stop Jo from crushing him but he never did, and he'd have to resort to it before Weiss freezes him.

Lemme fix your analogy, you have 3 levers, and always pull one of them, and you have to pull one of them before your opponent pulls a lever, which ones faster, you're opponent

Life or Death extends this greatly, especially since Dio was in the same situation but Stop said no to using it
 
He still used it. That's that. In theory, he could use it. After all, Weiss doesn't aim to one-shot every enemy with insta-freeze and has only done that on a couple of occasions throughout dozens of fights.
 
Used it in a scenario where he wasn't fighting, thus changing its use, that's that.

<Only a couple times

Stalker, Mech, Tournament (Twice), many atlesians during the battle at beacon, etc etc etc.

No matter what logic you use for Dio mind controlling Weiss is more likely to freeze
 
She's fought many, many more times. In the tournament, she never just started with it, and there was always a battle first. Weiss has a lot of abilities and only sometimes resorts to freezing, usually as a finishing move.
 
That's still infinitely better then Dio though.

Besides his mind control takes too long and requires him to get close which screws him

And it takes him too long to regenerate before he gets frozen so he doesn't need to lead with it
 
Tbh Dio should have resistence to Ice Manipulation and the cold. He creates the ice by lowering his body temperature so low that he flash freezes what he touches. The fact that he goes unimpeded by temperatures so low that his targets freeze on contact says something for his resistence
 
Schnee One said:
That doesn't grant you resistance to ice, you can't get resistances for Hax you use on yourself
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My point is the method. Dio does not have the ability to freeze, technically. What he has, is the ability to lower his body temperature and cause flash freezing.

It's the equivalent of someone increasing the temperature of the entire room, but your opponent is effected significantly, where as you are not. You are not exempt from the heat, but you are capable of coping with it where as your target cannot
 
Yes, what's your point?

If Dio lowers his body temperature to freeze others, but he himself does not freeze, why would someone else lowering his body temperature to the same temperature cause him to freeze?
 
You're resisting the room effecting you, affecting yourself isn't a feat of resistance.

One because it's stronger then he can break
 
Put it like this, if I lower my body temperature, then I can obviously survive at that temperature. My case is that, Dio is obviously harder to freeze, or he is at least able to survive at lower temperatures. To use a comparison, Naze can freeze herself and remain active. If someone else freezes her, is she suddenly unable to move?

What do you mean?
 
Im not going to bother with that point so fair enough, but you need a CRT

Her Ice is High 8C, even if he does resist he can't break out
 
Yeah, just another thing to add to the list of things I need to do at some point, like overhauling the Type Profiles, making more profiles for A House of Many Doors, working on the project of the other stuff from ImCyan other than just The Stalker, and eventually upgrading Johnny and Valentine back to 2-A. But oh well lol

Now, that is a valid point. He may resist the freezing, but if he can break the ice is another question entirely
 
just to be sure what's his AP again?

If it's barely 8C plus then he's screwed
 
<Checks calc

<1.2

I'm inclined to say he's ****** then, even if Dio can eventually break the freezing age can still shatter him and freeze his remains
 
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