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Well I assumed that numbers meant nothing to begin with since Buu stomps baselines, making that irrelevant anyway.

If that was so obvious how did you miss it?
 
All I saw on sonic profile was some black hole shit, so I'm not sure what end that guy sonic is, why is why I wondered again how you came to that conclusion
 
Only talking about sonic, feats starting at solar system are hard to exactly gauge, all I saw was he was 4-B because of some black hole calc, that sounds more impressive than cell going full power on a solar system. So I have no idea where the baseline idea comes from, since it's not easy to gauge something like this. So when I asked how they stomped because they were the same tier, it's cause I have no idea what end on the solar system he is, the profile links the feat that's it.
 
So Sonic stopped a machine from creating the black hole. Why does the machine's power scale to him? I may be missing something.
 
Buu breathes and Sonic is ousted

Assaltwaffle said:
So Sonic stopped a machine from creating the black hole. Why does the machine's power scale to him? I may be missing something.
Sonic was able to generate enough energy to counteract the machine's rotational cycle, which is what was generating the energy that would destroy everything.
 
The machine was creating a black hole by ripping space-time. It didn't compress or generate mass, as the calc implies. The way the machine did it doesn't work in a calc-able way.
 
That's the hole itself after it is spawned though. Sonic doesn't tank that unless he is just floating around in space Earth-less.
 
The feat isn't Sonic tanking it. It's that he was able to generate enough energy to act as a counterforce to its arms, which is what was going to create the black hole.
 
@Maverick

But the creation isn't a feat, though. Tearing space-time on that scale is just hax, not a quantifiable feat. Just because the dial is able to spawn a solar system-busting black hole doesn't mean the machine is has that level of energy.

If you punch a hole in a hot air balloon and it tears and rips apart, you didn't directly rip it apart. You just tore the hole that started it.
 
but what about the downgrade? If the black hole feat isnt considerable, then a downgrade should be in order, making buu stomp here.
 
Creating a realm with multiple stars is considered High 4-C

Anyway, I'll make the thread tomorrow if no one else does. Dang waffle why you gotta do me like that? :')
 
Don't we have a calc to assume the distance between stars if it isn't stated? Plus there's planets in there too which shows that they have their own solar systems.
 
Ignoring the potential CRT, i will take a gander at this.

Sonic: Aside from some pretty okay hax he has a few tricks up his sleeve, like Atom Manipulation which would maybe work on Boo unless his Body Control can let him reform from that. And has Time Stop, which will just keep Boo frozen while Sonic tries death of a thousand cuts, unless Sonic stacks it with Atom Manipulation and just manipulate Boo's atoms while he can't reform which is his only hope of winning save for some Reality Warping.

Majin Boo: Way higher AP even with the 1.2x baseline thing. While Sonic has a resistance to Magic, likely including Candy Beam, Boo would just simply absorb him once that doesn't work or even just turn him into candy. Some of the abilities Sonic has are pretty mediocre and won't do much against him, including Pressure Point Strikes which likely won't even affect him at all. Even if Sonic has Type 8 Immortality, Boo could just incap or absorb him.

So Boo unless Sonic tries a specific combination of Time Stop + Atom Manipulation and Reality Warping, both options he most likely wouldn't use.
 
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