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Spider-Man (Insomniac) & Batman (Telltale)

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I have a few things in mind for Insomniac's Spider-Man.

Revisions

I'm slightly uncertain about Spidey's building catching feat being Large Building. It should probably be calced as Spidey didn't actually damage the tower in question, the helicopter did. Might also be a lifting strength feat and not applicable for AP.

Fisk destroying the floor of his building and Electro destroying things should be calc'd too.


Then there's Telltale's Batman.

I'll admit, these profiles are highly downplayed. It's clear from a glance these feats are higher than wall level, but should still be calced.

Batman kicks Lady Arkham through a stone pillar. (Note: he was incredibly weakened, fatigued, and was waring a batsuit that "wouldn't protect much more than his identity" while doing this.) https://youtu.be/oBz13bND2Lw (starts at 6:15)

Vigilante Joker kicks down a giant smokestack. Starts 8:01 https://youtu.be/mQ5FjNN3fao

Batman gets hit by one of Joker's bombs. Starts 14:37 https://youtu.be/cH7n7BFLuAU

First feat scales to Beta Batsuit Batman (a key which should be added to his profile), Season 1 Batman scales up due to being stronger then Beta Suit, Lady Arkham scales up due to being weakened and mentally unbalanced at the time as well as standing on even footing with Season 1 Bats otherwise and being able to just get right back up after words, Penguin (Needs a profile but I'll do that later), Two-Face (Same as Penguin), Catwoman (Same as Penguin), Base Joker, Base Bain, and all the Pact Members (who all need profiles that I'll make when I find time.) Beta Suit Bats is the only one who scales directly. Everyone else scales up.

Second scales to Agency Venom Bane, Villain Joker, Vigilante Joker, and Season 2 Batman.

Third scales to Vigilante Joker, Villain Joker, and Season 2 Batman.

Batman's page needs to be devided into three keys. (Beta Suit Batman, Season 1 Batman, and Season 2 Batman)
 
The Wright Way said:
I'll admit, these profiles are highly downplayed. It's clear from a glance these feats are higher than wall level, but should still be calced.
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Dude, you were the one that asked the profile to be like that, I just made it as you said. You are the true downplayer.
 
Dude, you were the one that asked the profile to be like that, I just made it as you said. You are the true downplayer.

Because I clearly can't change my mind later. But in all seriousness, Bats didn't have any higher feats when I first asked you to make it.
 
8A seems very questionable for Spiderman as we have zero idea how Rhino destroys 6 city blocks
 
I removed the 8-A thing and added Fisk's floor destroying and Electro's destruction feats to the OP.
 
Catching that tower is not building level at all, and I don't remember Electro blowing a building, I can calculate it, but I need a video of the feat. Taking a lightning is his best feat for now.
 
I agree that destroying several city blocks over time is not 8-A.
 
I'll try compile some feats. I remember the Shocker (some one who he scales to in durability) could shatter a pillar and launch a bank vault.
 
Won't include lifting feats because lifting =/= striking on the wiki. Also, I'm fairly sure that the building sized tail is a hallucination.

In his fight with Kingpin, he gets launched and thrown through walls, later fighting on par with Fisk.

Withstands the Shocker's shockwave enhanced attacks.

The Shocker presumably demolishes this wall, though it's not shown.

Withstands a hit from the Shocker, which launches a bank vault and shatters a large pillar.

The Shocker destroys part of a pillar.

Withstands a blast from Mr. Negative.

Spider-Man fights opponents with superior strength to him all the time. He says he's quicker, but he also frequently withstands hits from them, so it must require him to have pretty good durability.

Fodders of Mr. Negative can do this.

Spider-Man crashes through a wall head first. It's a bit of an anti-feat.

Spider-Man and Scorpion take an explosion that pulverizes a large amount of concrete, although only the latter takes it at close range.

Electro creates a large explosion. It doesn't seem like there's explosives, but I could be wrong.

Spider-Man actually does well against Rhino, Vulture, Electro, etc, until he gets poisoned. The beating after apparently breaks bones.

Withstands a large amount of explosives at mid range while weakened.

Electro destroys a smoke stack.

Throws a pipe thing hard enough to shatter it.

In conclusion, if he gets downgraded, he's got plenty of Small Building level feats.

I think Spider-Man should have Mind Manip resistance.
 
Can somebody provide a summary of the conclusions here?
 
Antvasima said:
Can somebody provide a summary of the conclusions here?
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There aren't any conclusions yet. Spidey's stuff needs to be calculated and no one has addressed Batman yet.
 
Okay, a summary of the suggestions then?
 
Antvasima said:
Okay, a summary of the suggestions then?
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High 8-C Spidey makes no sense and he has feats that need calculations to determine his real tier.

Batman has feats above wall level that need calcs and scale to the two other profiles for Telltale's Batman. He also needs more keys added, one for the prototype Bat Suit and ones for Seasons 1 and 2 separately.

Other Telltale Batman characters need profiles but I'll do that myself eventually.
 
Alright. You can ask here for calculations: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1955985
 
Yes, it is nice of Mr. Bambu to help out. The calculations have to be evaluated and accepted by other calc group members though.
 
I put them in the Calculation Evaluation.
 
Okay. Thanks.
 
They've been evaluated and both are apparently fine according to two calc group members.
 
Okay. Then they should be fine to scale from.
 
As I mentiomed earlier, you are allowed to scale the characters from the accepted calculations.
 
Someone needs to change Peter to 9-A. Also, no one has addressed Batman yet.
 
Well, feel free to update Spider-Man according to the accepted calculations then.

However, I am not sure if the Batman feats in the first post are above 9-B. It is a very wide tier with roughly 1394.67x difference between the lower and upper border.
 
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