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Eren VS. Kirito

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Kirito
Kirito ALO2 copy
Powers and Stats

Tier: High 8-C

Name: Kirigaya Kazuto, Kirito, "The Black Swordsman", Beater, Narusaka Kazuto (Birth name)

Origin: Sword Art Online

Gender: Male

Age: 16 at the beginning of ALO

Classification: Human, SAO Survivor, High School Student, Spriggan (ALO)

Power and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Skilled Swordsman and Marksma, Skilled Hand-to-Hand Combatant, Regenerationn (Mid-Low in-combat. Low-Mid over time (All VR avatars can regenerate entire lost limbs, however it takes time, thus it is not combat applicable. Kirito specifically can survive for a long time with a blade stabbed through his chest). Note: The stronger the enemy is, the less effective the in-combat regen is), Enhanced Senses (via Hypersense), Distinguish (Eliminating background noise by concentrating on an unnatural or certain sound to detect another player's movement), Flight (Can fly with his ALO Avatar's wings for ten minutes before being forced to land pre-New Aincrad. Post-New Aincrad he's able to fly for an unlimited amount of time), Night Vision (via being a Spriggan), Illusion Creation, Magic (Can imbue his swords with fire, ice, thunder and darkness, as well as summon a large explosion of black smoke. Spriggans also have Magic that allows them to find treasure much more easily), Magic Negation, limited wall running (via being a light weight race)

Attack Potency: Large Building level (Still to an extent stronger than the version of himself that defeated Geocrawler, a monster with the height of a house and the length of many houses. GGO has monsters that should be comparable to Geocrawler)

Speed: Supersonic+ (Is able to casually move faster than his visual effects, which can create sonic booms) with Hypersonic+ combat speed (Was capable of swatting and deflecting bullets from an automatic rifle in GGO)

Lifting Strength: At most Class 5 (Should still be somewhat comparable to his SAO feats)

Striking Strength: Large Building Class

Durability: Large Building level

Stamina: Superhuman

Range: Extended melee range with swords, several meters with dash-type sword skills (Does not have this pre-New Aincrad), tens of meters in Beast Form.

Standard Equipment: Custom greatsword (Pre-New Aincrad), Custom one-handed swords and the Holy Sword Excalibur (Post-New Aincrad)

Intelligence: High combat intelligence and is very adaptable, most notable for his development of multiple Outside System Skills. Masterful swordsman specializing in one-handed swords, both single or dual wielding. Additionally, he is very knowledgeable with computers and mathematics (e.g. he randomly computes the volume of the food he eats) but is otherwise, academically average. Can recite the chant of his Release Recollection mid-combat, showing the ability to multitask.

Weaknesses: Normally composed and calculated when fighting, but fights with reckless abandon when he gets emotional. Sword Skills have a slight aftercast delay at the end of them in exchange for increased power.

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Outside System Skills
Outside System Skills (OuSS): As its name suggests, are skills that are the users own, unlike sword skills and magic that are provided for by the game engine.

  • (OuSS) Mislead: After studying his foe's movement and response patterns and learning functions (such as that of an enemy AI's), Kirito moves outside of his foe's habitual predictions to throw them off.
  • (OuSS) Arms Blast: Destroys the opponent's weapon by hitting its weak point, showing knowledge of swords.
  • (OuSS) Spell Blast: Negates a projectile spell by slashing through its hitbox (its very center) with a sword skill. The notable sword skill he used to demonstrate this is Deadly Sins, a 7-hit sword skill. The conception of this OuSS is from Kirito cutting bullets in GGO.
  • (OuSS) Hypersense: The act of sensing hostile intention or killer intent, allowing the user to somehow react to attacks done outside of their field of vision.
  • (OuSS) Distinguish: Allows the user to eliminate background noise to focus on unnatural or certain sounds around him. Its range is unknown but it is notable in that this skill, along with Hypersense, allowed Kirito to react to a sniper bullet from a blind spot.
  • (OuSS) Skill Connect: A combo attack of combo attacks. It allows the user to alternate sword skills with his left and right arm. It is extremely difficult to do as it requires split-second precision to prevent a sword skill's aftercast delay from affecting him.
  • (OuSS) Bullet Deflect: As the name suggests, it allows the user to deflect bullets, showing the user's reaction time.
  • (OuSS) Sword Skill Imitation: Imitating the user of Sword Skills without the system's assistance, removing the aftercast delay, but sacrificing the power and speed of the true skill.
Original Sword Skills
Original Sword Skills (OSS) - Sword skills made by or is inherited by the user from another. It is done by recording the creator's movements while the skill is being done. It is very difficult as it requires the user to do it perfectly as speeds above how they normally do, at speeds of that of sword skills. Cannot be used in Sword Art Online and in Gun Gale Online (The latter can only use imitations).

  • (OSS) Howling Octave - A combination sword skill that does 5 high-speed thrusts followed by 2 vertical slashes, for a total of 7-hits. Fire Element.
    • The final move of this skill leaves the user in a rigid position (aftercast delay) that is similar to the initial motion of the OSS Savage Fulcrum with the other hand, therefore, if the player has two swords and can think about different things with the left and right side of the brain, it is possible to chain in the skill before the delay of Howling Octave is over, nullifying the aftercast delay.
  • (OSS) Savage Fulcrum - A 3-hit sword skill that produces ice shards from the point of impact of the initial stab and the finishing upward slash. Ice Element.
  • (OSS) Lightning Fall - A 1-hit dual-wield OSS that produces an area-of-effect lightning attack centered at the two swords stabbed at the ground. It is one of the few ranged attack sword skills. Lightning Element.
Magic
Magic - Allows the user to use race-unique and Alfheim standard magic. Kirito, as a Spriggan is naturally inclined towards illusion-based magic but he also uses standard elemental magic to imbue his swords with it. Alfheim Online (ALO) Kirito only.

  • Spriggan Illusion Magic - Smokescree - An unnamed magic that produces an enormous black smoke cloud centered around Kirito. Kirito, a spriggan is naturally immune to it and therefore can see through the smoke.
  • Spriggan Illusion Magic - Metamorphosis - A magic that sucks up all of Kirito's remaining mana to transform him into a Gleam Eyes-esque beast but is built for speed instead of the Gleam Eyes' bulky strength build. This only increases his attack range due to the beast form's arm length, but it does not increase his stats in any way as it is only an illusion.
  • Wall Ru: As one of the lightweight races, the Spriggans are capable of using the skill Wall Run, that, as the name suggests, allows them to temporarily run on walls. The normal limit is a distance of ten meters, but those with an extremely high sprinting speed are known to be able to run for about thirty meters.
  • Night Vision: Spriggans are known to have night vision, allowing them to be able to see in near total darkness. They are also capable of casting a buff that gives others the same abilities.
  • Treasure Hunting Magic: Though capable of using other types of magic, Spriggans are known to be the masters of Treasure Hunting Magic, a magic that assists them in treasure hunting.
Just for reference of what this version of Kirito has
 
Now then, im not really seeing anything Kirito has that would help with Eren's regen, and due to Eren having the enhanced hardening of the Warhammer Titan now, im not sure Kirito has the AP to do much damage. For reference, Warhammerer Titan Hardening is stronger than Eren's normal Hardening to the point that it can break through it like its nothing, with Eren's Hardening being comparable to that of Annie's Hardening which was undamaged by Levi's attacks which can casually shred the Beast Titan, who is 2.8 Tons in durability.
 
There's no reason kirito would really go for the back of the neck, so there goes eren's weakness. Unless kirito gets lucky, i don't see his versatility overpowering the regen.
 
Even if he tries Eren can harden his nape to protect his human body, and even then He'd have to decapitate human Eren to prevent him from regenerating
 
Yeaaaah, not much Kirito's doing here. Maybe if it's Ordinal Scale VR Kirito then something can happen, like him jumping up to Eren's face and proceeding to Starburst Stream or something.
 
Kirito kiiinda slaps Kaneki though...


...Unless we're talking about Dragon here, in which case, Kirito gets stepped on.
 
I mean Eren vs Kirito has been a somewhat popular match for some time, its just that theyre no on an even tier
 
I think Kirito wins because his regen overpowers erens(Health calculated to full health regen in 3 min.)

AP overpowers erens

Kirito has Better arsenal

Durability goes to eren

Mobility goes to Kirito(spriggan form being able to fly)

If worst comes to worst he can freeze him(alicization kirito)

Edge in speed definetly goes to kirito(wont go into specifics but kirito stomps)

I just think it is more likely kirito finds an opening and slices his neck than Eren happens to hit him really hard(even then he could regen. in 3 min)

Please reply I want to see your thoughts:)
 
Okay, so in order:

Kirito's combat applicable regen is only Mid-Low, or only large cuts and wounds, anything more than that takes a lot longer and isnt applicable in combat. Eren meanwhile can regenerate his head, entire limbs, and, since this is post timeskip, create an entirely new titan body instantly in combat. Kirito's regen also works less against comparable/stronger opponents.

Kirito's AP doesnt overpower Eren, on the contrary Kirito will have some difficulty harming Eren due to his Hardening ability

A better arsenal wont really help Kirito here

Correct

Correct

This isnt Alicization Kirito, this is ALO (Fairy Dance/New Aincrad) Kirito

Speed is equalized

Kirito has no knowledge about Eren's human body being in the Attack Titan's neck so he'd have no reason to randomly attack there, and even if he did Eren can use hardening to protect his nape.
 
I just remembered ALO Kirito has the Gleam Eyes illusion form. It doesn't effect strength or speed, but would it's larger size and reach be a contributing factor?
 
If Kirito went for Gleam Eyes it would probably backfire for him seeing as he rarely fights as it whereas Eren fights nearly exclusively as the Attack Titan and has years of experience fighting large monsters in that form
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Okay, so in order:
Kirito's combat applicable regen is only Mid-Low, or only large cuts and wounds, anything more than that takes a lot longer and isnt applicable in combat. Eren meanwhile can regenerate his head, entire limbs, and, since this is post timeskip, create an entirely new titan body instantly in combat. Kirito's regen also works less against comparable/stronger opponents.

Kirito's AP doesnt overpower Eren, on the contrary Kirito will have some difficulty harming Eren due to his Hardening ability

A better arsenal wont really help Kirito here

Correct

Correct

This isnt Alicization Kirito, this is ALO (Fairy Dance/New Aincrad) Kirito

Speed is equalized

Kirito has no knowledge about Eren's human body being in the Attack Titan's neck so he'd have no reason to randomly attack there, and even if he did Eren can use hardening to protect his nape.
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Kirito with his advantages should win this and I will prove this:

1.Experience:This one goes to Kirito as he fought many monsters like Eren(75 to be exact) and eren shouldnt be anything new.On the contrary Eren is at a disatvantage as Kirito is a moving smaller target,something he has not faced.

2.Durability:Durability goes to Eren.His regen and his immense ability to endure pain outdoes Kirito's regen

3.Attack Potency:This goes either way because Kirito takes hits from Yuuki which shakes the island while Eren is large building level so ill call this a draw

4.Speed:I know speed is equalized but with excalibar it raises all of Kirito's stats so Kirito

This gives us a total of 2:2

This means we have to look at their abilities and probability

What is more probable,Eren just happens to predict where Kirito is gonna fly/move next and then critical hits him so hard that he dies or Kirito while flying around finds an opening in his neck and slices it

I think the latter is more probable

This is by no means a stomp by kirito but I think he wins 7/10

Thoughts?
 
1. Eren actually has extensive training fighting smaller opponents due to training in his titan form against the survey corps.

3. Kirito's is wielding excalibur as standard equipment, his speed with it gets equalized.

Attacking the titan's neck won't kill it, he has to specifically attack the nape and even then he has to decapitate eren in order to kill him otherwise he will regenerate, while eren can just put instant hardening around where kirito's is trying to strike so he can't cut him
 
Well,what evidence is there that he trained with skilled survey corps members like kirito?

I know attacking a titan shifters neck will not kill it but it will give him an opening to kill eren
 
He trained with both Levi and Mikasa who are both easily around Kirito's level skill-wise, as well as multiple other members of the survey corps who all have training specifically to fight against titans.

Not if eren hardens his neck it wont.

Eren also has a huge amount of battlefield control now that he has the attack titan, and he also has decent range ants he can make giant crossbows out of hardening
 
This fair? To be honest Alicization Kirito seems the most fair out of the bunch here. That or Ordinal Scale VR Kirito.
 
@Xmark

Alicization Kirito stomps due to Release Recollection. He can turn people into trees and flash freeze, and has sub-rel reaction speed.

@Weekly @XAtomiic

Experience-wise, I'd say there no real difference.

Kirito was trapped in SAO for 2 years and has fought countless of monsters, had an arm sliced off, been stabbed, and has watched friends and close ones die in front of his eyes.

Eren has also seen COUNTLESS of people die, has been swallowed by a titan, and has had limbs ripped off.

ALO Kirito also has a form, but all it does is increase his range.


But for me, Kirito wins 5.5-7/10. Eren has hardening, and Kirito has flight. Kirito should be able to find Eren's nape.
 
Kirito has 2 years of training, Eren has almost 10 at this point

Even if kirito finds erens weakness, eren can harden his nape to make it durable to the point that no matter what kirito will not be able to cut it
 
Kirito is still faster, and has flight, which I'm sure Eren has seen flying fairies holding dual blades before.

But yes. Currently, my opinon has changed to a 50/50 win for each person, until someone changes my mind.
 
Kuroiha said:
Kirito is still faster, and has flight, which I'm sure Eren has seen flying fairies holding dual blades before.
But yes. Currently, my opinon has changed to a 50/50 win for each person, until someone changes my mind.
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As it says in the original post, speed is equalized. If speed was unequalized, Kirito stomps.
 
Speed is equalized and even with flight Kirito has nothing that would be useful as he'd still have to get close to be able to damage Eren while Eren has dealt with human-sized opponents moving through the air around him as a means of fighting him, multiple opponents at once at that.
 
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