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All Might vs Dio

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Technically he could phase through him and crush his heart or plant flesh buds in him, but neither are the least bit in character.

Also I think his... tendrils(?) would need to be able to pierce All Might's skin to plant a flesh bud and that sure ain't happening.
 
He will try to use phasing or his parasites when he realise that his punches are not doing effect after all Dio is not a idiot and he figths serious.
 
How about just fighting just punch All-Might with The World so many times until All-Might starts to tire. DIO has a lot of stamina. He can just stands there while The World continuosly beat down All-Might. And even if All-Might could reach him, there's the regen and time-stop.
 
I don't see how all might can actually kill DIO without trying to trick him into sunlight. However the chances of that happening are so slim it's almost guaranteed not to happen. DIO should straight up outlast him tbh
 
Inconclusive, I think. Harming All Might is gonna take a long time and DIO's time hax make him unlikely to be killed in earnest.
 
This is far from inconclusive.

DIO can dodge any ranged attack such as his shockwaves and thrown objects via time stop. If All Might wants to damage him, he's going to need to do so at melee range. Even then it's a stretch.

While All Might is a lot stronger than DIO and The World are, he would struggle landing a hit against an opponent who casually spams his time stop.(see DIO vs Polnareff and stairs) (this is what he was actually doing)

Furthermore DIO can actually kill All Might with a single touch. His vaporizing freeze would instantly render All Might immobile and unable to function, and it's fast enough to blitz a Hypersonic+ Dire. He has no counter to this form of hax.

(Inb4 DIO doesn't have his phantom blood abilities!!! Wrong, DIO had said once he drank Joseph's blood, that his body was stronger than it ever was before. )

While it may be out of character for him to use his PB abilities, once he realizes that The World cannot do any significant damage against him, it will likely reach a point where he thinks "hmm what can I hurt him with" and then brings out the vaporizing freeze

I like All Might but he's just outmatched in terms of hax. I vote for DIO.
 
Oh boy. Just gonna pretend that isn't a response nowadays. Just for reference. Prime All Might is 2.32 Gigatons to Dio's 64.75 Tons. 2320000000 Tons to 65 Tons. A flick makes DIO paste. All Might is over 35.8 million times stronger than DIO, and DIO's feat killed his opponent flat out (even if he came back later). Literally touching a moving All Might means DIO is dead. Even if 0.001% of All Might's power hits DIO, DIO is paste. But DIO is pretty fast. He has time hax. He's got a lot, really. So I'm gonna say inconclusive and stay there.
 
Ok so here's how this actually goes.

DIO stops time. He then gloats for a few seconds before The World punches All Might, promptly breaking both of its and DIO's hands in doing so via punching someone whose durability is 250195.718601 times his AP. DIO's hands heal. Time unfreezes and All Might punches with enough force to create a kilometers-wide shockwave. DIO probably stops time again but it doesn't really matter because as soon as time unfreezes once more he's blown to thousands of tiny pieces due to being hit with a shockwave that is 250195.718601 times stronger than his durability and is also much wider in range than he can escape from. DIO's brain is now mush, so All Might wins.
 
@Arrogant Schmuck

DIO gloating for a few seconds is cinematic time. It would not affect how much time he actually has within stopped time. I disagree with your analysis that DIO's hands would shatter against All Might. Star Platinum (a stand with comparable if not equal strength) did not have his hands shatter when he punched an object he could not crack. At most, Jotaro's hands started to bleed a little after 3 seperate barrages.

You also assumed that DIO wouldn't... move out of the way of the shockwave? You realize he can fly, right? He can see the shockwave coming with his MFTL reactions, it's not going to be a surprise to him. How is All Might going to land a shockwave from hundreds of meters away against a flying, time stopping vampire? The answer: he's not.

@Mr. Bambu

I have no disagreement that All Might can one shot DIO. I have major issues with him having the means to do so, DIO is just as fast as him and can stop time against MFTL attacks. He will not be getting hit by any shockwave, he can fly the **** away.

Furthermore DIO just needs to touch All Might and he instantly wins the fight. His win condition is much easier, stop time, touch All Might, freeze All Might, GG.
 
ProfessorLord said:
@Arrogant Schmuck
I disagree with your analysis that DIO's hands would shatter against All Might. Star Platinum (a stand with comparable if not equal strength) did not have his hands shatter when he punched an object he could not crack. At most, Jotaro's hands started to bleed a little after 3 seperate barrages.
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Sheer Heart Attack also doesn't have anywhere close to 7-B durability.

How is All Might going to land a shockwave from hundreds of meters away against a flying, time stopping vampire?

By using shockwaves that have kilometers of AoE. That also addresses the flying issue.

And as for your whole "he just needs to freeze All Might" argument, just because he said he's more powerful than ever before does not at all mean he still has suddenly gained the powers he had in Phantom Blood. It just means his physical power and the abilities he already had have been significantly enhanced. Never in the entirety of Part 3 did he demonstrate the ability to freeze people.
 
@Arrogant

SHA is durable enough that it was largely unaffected by Star Platinum's punches, yet his knuckes didn't break. Being more durable would still make someone like All Might largely unaffected by Star Platinum's punches.

I'm trying to say your argument is stupid, if they were both unaffected by Star Platinum's punches it means they were of high enough durability. Star Platinum's fists didn't break against SHA, it won't break against All Might's.

He's throwing a grounded shockwave towards DIO. DIO can just walk through it entirely. There is no force being carried by the wind anymore, he charges straight through it unharmed.

The logic for him losing his powers was because he was weaker. Now he's at his strongest ever. He gains his powers back. Him not using it was because of PIS. He
 
ProfessorLord said:
I'm trying to say your argument is stupid
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Well thanks for clearing that up, but it's not. Punching something hundreds of thousands of times more durable than you are strong is going to hurt you exponentially more than it hurts your target. There is nothing implying Sheer Heart Attack is hundreds of thousands of times stronger than Jotaro. It doesn't need to be in order for Jotaro to be unable to hurt it with SP. Hell it hardly needs to be six times stronger in order for that to be the case.

If I'm still not getting through, go punch a brick wall right now as hard as you can, then come back and tell me this argument doesn't make sense.

If it still doesn't make sense to you, well... Idk what to tell you.
 
Your argument basically amounts to this logic:

I punch a steel wall with as much force as possible. My fist doesn't shatter completely, but my knuckes are cracked and disjointed and begin to bleed.

I punch a TITANIUM ALLOY wall with as much force as possible. My fist is completely ******* obliterated, just a stub on my arm remains as I bleed everywhere.

Punching an object that is durable enough to be unaffected is no different from punching an object that is even more durable, and will still be unaffected. That is not how physics work.
 
I disagree with your idea that he can use vapourisation freezing. He didn't say "this body is stronger than my original body", and he didn't say "this body has regained all of my old abilities". He said "this body is stronger than ever before". Meaning Johnathan's body is stronger than johnathan's body ever was before. All that you can get from that statement is that the body he is currently in is physically stronger than it used to be. Not that the body he's in has gained all the abilities his old body had.
 
Well, when did he say "my body has lost all of my old abilities?". That's the only scenario where we would need him to directly state "my body has gained all of my old abilities"

If it was only implied that he lost all of his abilities because he grew weaker, than him growing stronger than ever before should imply that he regained them as well.
 
A casual punch from prime All Might canceled out a tornado and blew the resulting storm clouds out of sight. DIO has a big disadvantage here. My vote's with All Might.
 
MirioTogata said:
A casual punch from prime All Might canceled out a tornado and blew the resulting storm clouds out of sight. DIO has a big disadvantage here. My vote's with All Might.
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Irrelevant because DIO can walk through said shockwave in stopped time.
 
Then whether or not he's hitting All Might and then fleeing the shockwave at the same time depends on his location. Highly irrelevant, seeing as All Might's durability is still far above what DIO dishes out.
 
No, it doesn't. DIO can clear any distance in which All Might's shockwave would pose a threat to him. You don't seem to understand how fast hypersonic speeds are.

It's not irrelevant because DIO's vaporizing freeze bypasses durability. All Might becomes a popsicle.
 
Assuming DIO is baseline hypersonic speeds, he would be able to move at 7672.69mph. That's the equivalent of crossing roughly 4.7671 miles in only a second. I've never seen All Might throw a shockwave from miles and miles away, but even assuming he chooses to do so, he would need to throw an effective shockwave from roughly 42 miles away, seeing as how that's as much ground DIO can cross within 9 seconds.

(All Might drew in a thunderstorm from 5.3 kilometers away, that's roughly 3 miles. That should be the maximum effective range of his shockwave.)

So yeah, your argument doesn't hold any credibilty.
 
Awakened DIO doesn't have vaporizing freeze. DIO's never used his past abilities during part three, so it's obviously either OOC for him, or it's because of a strong Hamon residue in Jonathan's body. It's headcanon at this point.
 
It was never stated in Stardust Crusaders that he had lost his vampire abilities. Let me make this clear.

You're assuming that he lost it because he had said his body was weak. Awakened DIO is the strongest he has ever been. So going by your logic, he should once more have his vampire abilities.

Absence of evidence cannot be used as evidence. Him not using his vampire abilities doesn't mean he lost it. It's something called Plot Induced Stupidity. Araki is silly.

You can make the argument that it might be OOC for him to use it, but after a while of trying to harm All Might with The World, his line of thought is going to cross "hmmm how can i hurt him. oh yeah, vaporizing freeze"

(It was also never stated that hamon was the reason why he was weak. He only said it was because Jonathan's body had resisted him. You made that assumption.)

Your argument holds no credibility at this point, it's based on headcanon and hand waving.
 
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