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Acausal and 4-C or higher Devilman?

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The last thread is kind of dead so I address this in this thread instead.

Devilman has Acausality. Akira exists in the form of pure will, like all the other demons and supernatural beings in this universe, it allows him to be reborn again, despite of the full change of time, space, the universe, and even if the original world has long ceased to exist. Not to mention that in Devilman vs Cyborg 009, he remembered what happened after universe was rewritten. He also time travels to the past, wreck some shit and come back without any consequences.

About 4-C Akira, nobody seemed to disagree so why don't we put that then? Also I read some High 3-A stuffs in the last thread involving Mazinger and Hades.

Okay, final part. Higher-Dimensional Devilman. In Devilman Saga, Amon is an armor. An armor made up of some dimensional matter outside of the universe. While it is hinted that it is from parallel universe, it is also hinted that it is Higher-Dimensional like 4-D or 5-D matter. And the thing is, they can break each other.
 
Well, this is intresting and i can say it is possible, but we need more people input. About 4-C is possible, but 3-A - not quiet sure. In series, most of top tier, casually Planet/Star leveler with Reality Warping abilities and in Devilman vs. Hades, Hades casually Reality Warper so hard to tell for sure... i think it is acceptable to call At least 5-B, likely far higher
 
I think I can agree on that. And 4-C comes from BFR, right? I think that is not AP feat if I think about it. Higher-Dimensional Devilman can just excuse it to being far higher instead. It's never been confirmed anyway.
 
Yeah, only BFR so no AP feat, although the Satan/Zenon with this attack can easily deform the Earth and much more. Also, Higher-Dimensional more likely some type form of passive protection: he cannot be killed by any ordinary creatures, even if the universe is destroyed, overwritten, erased, and so forth on the list - as long as he is aware of himself, he will exist. Also, in Devilman Lady, Akira has confirmed that he could easily be reborn in the body of the common man like all demons, however, said that won't do, because it is not very good.
 
Wait, he will exist even if the universe alongside him is erased? Isn't that, well, High-Godly? And the panel you posted is possession and I don't understand why Amon don't have this in the profile.
 
Okay, I'm seeing few of the abilities not listed coming from RTs:

Resistance to Radiation Manipulation

Soul Manipulation including destruction

Limited Invisibility (only for blasts and when he's just a will)

Resistance to Telepathy

Possession

Astral Projection

Resistance to Precognition

Earth Manipulation

Illusion Creation (it can be felt at that)

Power Bestowal

Portal Creation

Fusionism (himself to others)

This alongside the requested Acausality and possibly High-Godly Regen.

Also isn't in Amon stated that when in tandem with Satan, they can fight God who can reality warp the universe? Reality Warping the universe as we know it is an AP feat.
 
Well, now not surprise that on a plot, God has locked Amon out of space and time, forever. It's probably a life-erasing ability that can destroy even the GODS, otherwise i don't know. Also, in this series most natural feat straight through hax, so it quite possible in that case.
 
^ That sounds reasonable to me.

As for the High-Godly though was it stated he'd live if the universe was destroyed or are we going off the feat of him maintaining his being after it reset?
 
It comes from the nature of the demons, beings that can't be killed even if the universe itself is erased.

Also whew, he's quite haxxed. Surprising coming from very close-combat and Gore oriented verse like this.
 
Go Nagai - when not busy with ecchi manga, makes perhaps the most haxxed characters.

Here's what Ryo said about the nature of demons, when God destroyed them all:

Ryo's speech 01
Ryo's speech 02
Ryo's speech 03
Ryo's speech 04
Ryo's speech 05
  • Even no name demons can easily withstand a nuclear explosion:
Demons durability 01 Demons durability 02Demons durability 03Demons durability 04 Demons durability 05Demons durability 06

 
Agree with everything here except for the higher Dimensional stuff (As it requires more solid proof) and High-Godly Regen as to get High-Godly you'll need to be either Regen from the Erasure of the entire Dimension alongside with you (Which would include the entire Multiverse too)

he cannot be killed by any ordinary creatures, even if the universe is destroyed, overwritten, erased, and so forth on the list - as long as he is aware of himself, he will exist

This sounds like Low-Godly to me. Why? Because he is "Aware of himself" aka either his soul or spirit will survive from the destruction/erasure and Regen his body.
 
except for the higher Dimensional stuff (As it requires more solid proof) and High-Godly Regen as to get High-Godly you'll need to be either Regen from the Erasure of the entire Dimension alongside with you (Which would include the entire Multiverse)

Yes a moot point

This sounds like Low-Godly

Well, this is his major ability after reborn
 
I will do. So except Higher-Dimensional and High-Godly all fine. Also add the ability of the Jack in profile? Because it is a full fusion of the personality of Akira and Amon, and to the beginning of the events of Shin Violence Jack - it is again the personality of Amon, in about the same form as at the time of events Akuma Kishi. Or is it better to create him profile?
 
>Remembered everything after supposed infinite time loops

>Remembered everything again after universal reset

>Travel back in time back and forth without any consequences

>Isn't affected by the changes of time, space, universe or reality as a whole.

Not Acausality?
 
I have watched parts of the series, but not al the things. However, i recall i discussed these with Arekusuripa, i agree with the major abilities discussed but we need link for those that might ask where some abilities like regen. comes from.
 
From the first post, I think that Time Paradox Immunity seems fine to add, but if higher-dimensional nature is contradicted by the actual displayed power level, we usually tend to go by the latter option instead.

I haven't read the rest of this thread though.
 
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